964 ROW question
10-13-2017, 11:38 AM
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10-13-2017, 12:34 PM
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The license plate light, the fuel sticker and the rear center reflector also have different part numbers from a ROW model. I'm not seeing any J specific country code designation on the side mirrors that make them different from the USA other than for the inscription etching required on the US models. Maybe someone can point out the differences? Porsche's importer in Japan could have base specified all models without a sunroof but there are non-sunroof coupes in the US also...
For more exact differences you are better off starting with Adrian's book to see the model year differences ROW/USA and then compare editions of PET. The only real substantive difference is the ride height?
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10-13-2017, 01:52 PM
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The engines are exactly the same as the USA. The catalytic converter is slightly different in that it has a bung for a temperature sensor. The wiring for the power window switches (non-powered when ignition is off), headlamps (H4/H5), turn signals, speedometer UOMs, brake warning lamp (ISO/ECE symbol), rearview mirror inscription, warning buzzer, microswitch in the driver's seatbelt latch, vin plates, different bumper shocks.
The license plate light, the fuel sticker and the rear center reflector also have different part numbers from a ROW model. I'm not seeing any J specific country code designation on the side mirrors that make them different from the USA other than for the inscription etching required on the US models. Maybe someone can point out the differences? Porsche's importer in Japan could have base specified all models without a sunroof but there are non-sunroof coupes in the US also...
For more exact differences you are better off starting with Adrian's book to see the model year differences ROW/USA and then compare editions of PET. The only real substantive difference is the ride height?
The license plate light, the fuel sticker and the rear center reflector also have different part numbers from a ROW model. I'm not seeing any J specific country code designation on the side mirrors that make them different from the USA other than for the inscription etching required on the US models. Maybe someone can point out the differences? Porsche's importer in Japan could have base specified all models without a sunroof but there are non-sunroof coupes in the US also...
For more exact differences you are better off starting with Adrian's book to see the model year differences ROW/USA and then compare editions of PET. The only real substantive difference is the ride height?
What about the weight? ROW no sunroof vs US spec Sun roof?
10-13-2017, 09:32 PM
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I had them one or two at a time, i dont have all at same time. I dont collect.
if i see one with color or mods i like more, i will buy that and sell the one i have.
when you are buying them and working on them, tearing them apart, drive them, you learn really fast ;-)
i am not sure what you mean.i have had ROW and USA, i would take which specific example that's in better shape. their country of origin is not important.
if i see one with color or mods i like more, i will buy that and sell the one i have.
when you are buying them and working on them, tearing them apart, drive them, you learn really fast ;-)
i am not sure what you mean.i have had ROW and USA, i would take which specific example that's in better shape. their country of origin is not important.
12-12-2017, 09:51 AM
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If these follow all other ROW imported 911's the ROW cars will be worth less than a US counterpart here. Although no doubt a ROW RS will command a huge premium over a C2. In the end all cars need to be evaluated on a case by case basis.
12-12-2017, 10:00 AM
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Jason answered your questions and as said a lot of ROW cars were optioned with a sunroof. If not you are looking at 40 pounds difference which is not noticeable when driving these. The sunroof complete weighs 45 pounds and the replacement panel to fill the void is 5 pounds. The biggest advantage of no sunroof is added head room and clean roof lines.
If these follow all other ROW imported 911's the ROW cars will be worth less than a US counterpart here. Although no doubt a ROW RS will command a huge premium over a C2. In the end all cars need to be evaluated on a case by case basis.
If these follow all other ROW imported 911's the ROW cars will be worth less than a US counterpart here. Although no doubt a ROW RS will command a huge premium over a C2. In the end all cars need to be evaluated on a case by case basis.
12-12-2017, 02:15 PM
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the row is worth as much - or more - in Canada. the added features are worth a few bucks. priced out H4 lighting upgrades lately? the rear fog light set up is also a nice option on the wet coast. me? i like the side markers, as well. not being 4 x 4 height is nice.
usually Japanese cars here - impeccable condition - in most cases.
disclaimer - i own an American model. wish it had been a Euro. patriotism falls aside - when cars are involved.
usually Japanese cars here - impeccable condition - in most cases.
disclaimer - i own an American model. wish it had been a Euro. patriotism falls aside - when cars are involved.
12-12-2017, 02:57 PM
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To each their own.
The big + for US directly to me is the ability to check actual mileage and history the rest is something I will change anyhow and I hate the side markers. fog lights are worthless to me but I do use them as additional brake lights.
The big + for US directly to me is the ability to check actual mileage and history the rest is something I will change anyhow and I hate the side markers. fog lights are worthless to me but I do use them as additional brake lights.
the row is worth as much - or more - in Canada. the added features are worth a few bucks. priced out H4 lighting upgrades lately? the rear fog light set up is also a nice option on the wet coast. me? i like the side markers, as well. not being 4 x 4 height is nice.
usually Japanese cars here - impeccable condition - in most cases.
disclaimer - i own an American model. wish it had been a Euro. patriotism falls aside - when cars are involved.
usually Japanese cars here - impeccable condition - in most cases.
disclaimer - i own an American model. wish it had been a Euro. patriotism falls aside - when cars are involved.
12-12-2017, 04:09 PM
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There was an ROW 964 for sale on RL several months ago. I wouldn't mind one in a less common color.
12-12-2017, 08:13 PM
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the row is worth as much - or more - in Canada. the added features are worth a few bucks. priced out H4 lighting upgrades lately? the rear fog light set up is also a nice option on the wet coast. me? i like the side markers, as well. not being 4 x 4 height is nice.
usually Japanese cars here - impeccable condition - in most cases.
disclaimer - i own an American model. wish it had been a Euro. patriotism falls aside - when cars are involved.
usually Japanese cars here - impeccable condition - in most cases.
disclaimer - i own an American model. wish it had been a Euro. patriotism falls aside - when cars are involved.
Japanese import. Not sure if that is a good or bad thing.
Documentation was complete ......... in Japanese.
12-13-2017, 06:41 AM
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Most of ROW cars were optioned with a sunroof, non-sunroof is rare.
My car is a non-sunroof European version, but has option M650 (on the trunk sticker), how about that?
My car is a non-sunroof European version, but has option M650 (on the trunk sticker), how about that?