Best track pads for m030 / turbo s
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we were running R4-E (endurance) on our rx7 enduro car. we were mercyless on them and would get about 24 hours of race laps. I've heard that the compound has changed recently for the worse, can't confirm or refute. we are building a 944 turbo non m30 for American endurance and chump, and we selected Raybestos St43 that i bought from Porterfield. have no idea how much the m030 parts would cost
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Using the dampers with these calipers is nice because you don't have to clean the goop off of them up if you want to run two different pads with your car (ie one for the street and one for the track), allowing you to effectively hot swap them in the pits as long as you have pliers.
Guess it ultimately comes down to how much road driving you're going to do. Not sure I'd recommend these if all you're going to be doing is setting lap times or whatever.
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In the end Im going to stick with the PFC11 this time, even if the price is getting a little ridiculous especially with the week $AU / strong $US. Looked at DTC70/60 and really not much cheaper. So until I can find a decent track pad for around $200 I'll stick with these PFC's which must be made from unicorn horns.
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Are you buying them locally or O.S. Eric?
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Overseas. I have bought them locally before, but last time they took weeks to get back to me and in the end I ordered from os and had them shipped in the mean time (before local dealer even confirmed price). Availability in Australia seems to be an issue in that they don't seem to keep much stock locally anymore.
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Porterfield R4-S is a street pad (S). The R-4 is the track compound, and they are not equivalent to the high end Pagids, Hawks, PFCs. More of an entry level track pad for DE'ers. Don't have the grab and can't handle the heat as well as the other pads listed above. Not adequate for racing, unless at a low speed light braking track.
Also be aware that the M030/928S4 calipers squeak worse than the standard Turbo/S2/968 calipers, regardless of pad choice.
Also be aware that the M030/928S4 calipers squeak worse than the standard Turbo/S2/968 calipers, regardless of pad choice.
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I must not be driving hard enough then lol! What do you run for the street?
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I run the r4-s, its still great for the street except for the initial bite. I added the 968 cooling paddles which is helping temps, but its mostly that i keep it on the auto-x course like i should. I was taking too much risk with the downhill runs, there is a lot of wisdom in keeping it on the track for 10/10ths.
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I run the r4-s, its still great for the street except for the initial bite. I added the 968 cooling paddles which is helping temps, but its mostly that i keep it on the auto-x course like i should. I was taking too much risk with the downhill runs, there is a lot of wisdom in keeping it on the track for 10/10ths.
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I've also read in the 911 forums of someone that had good feedback to say about Ferodo pads in a similar thread. Try contacting Clark at Apex Performance in here.
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...pensive-2.html
"Many of the 991 GT3 guys have switched from PFC 11 compound to Ferodo DS1.11 compound. They like the Ferodo DS1.11 much better and find it is lasting as much as 50% longer with much better pedal feel and superior modulation.
For the 997Turbo and GT3 guys the good news is the Ferodos are much less expensive than PFC.
Fronts are http://apexperformance-net.3dcartsto...111_p_100.html
rears are http://apexperformance-net.3dcartsto...111_p_102.html
The Rennlist promo code works with these items."
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...pensive-2.html
"Many of the 991 GT3 guys have switched from PFC 11 compound to Ferodo DS1.11 compound. They like the Ferodo DS1.11 much better and find it is lasting as much as 50% longer with much better pedal feel and superior modulation.
For the 997Turbo and GT3 guys the good news is the Ferodos are much less expensive than PFC.
Fronts are http://apexperformance-net.3dcartsto...111_p_100.html
rears are http://apexperformance-net.3dcartsto...111_p_102.html
The Rennlist promo code works with these items."
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LATE Update: Don't buy R4-S's if you're hard on your brakes.. Warped my pads at my auto-x. Liked them at first as a spirited street pad and they were ok on the track but just didn't last. Maybe it was just my driving & the course I was on but they're definitely gone. Thinking I'll just buy 2 sets of pads (one being the Auto-X/DE set, the other for general street driving) now with how easy it is to swap them in and out the night before the event.
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Thanks for the update. I'm more than happy with the PFC pads (apart from the price). They really are great pads. I'll look around again in a year when it's time to replace them again.
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For us Aussie folk, the Project Mu HC800 is another contender for the street/track pad. They are a great quality pad, comparable with Ferodo DS2500's or Hawk Blues, but in stock locally and a fair bit cheaper. I got a front set from Brakes Direct for only 189 bucks and they were here in 3 days.
I used them today at Queensland Raceway for the first time and they are really awesome. I was previously using QFM A1RM's all round with ATE Super Blue or Brakes Direct Super Dot 4, and I kept getting bad fade towards the end of sprint days. So I upgraded to HC800's in the front, and Castrol SRF fluid and I had no fade at all today, so I am extremely happy. They also don't squeal which is nice.
If the HC800's aren't enough for you, Project Mu also has a clubsport pad that is more orientated to track only cars, and they also have all out motorsport pads for race cars.
EDIT: Link to the HC800's for anyone interested. The medium black pads are actually ten bucks cheaper than what I paid for the stock small brembo pads. http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/z152-...rake-pads.html
I used them today at Queensland Raceway for the first time and they are really awesome. I was previously using QFM A1RM's all round with ATE Super Blue or Brakes Direct Super Dot 4, and I kept getting bad fade towards the end of sprint days. So I upgraded to HC800's in the front, and Castrol SRF fluid and I had no fade at all today, so I am extremely happy. They also don't squeal which is nice.
If the HC800's aren't enough for you, Project Mu also has a clubsport pad that is more orientated to track only cars, and they also have all out motorsport pads for race cars.
EDIT: Link to the HC800's for anyone interested. The medium black pads are actually ten bucks cheaper than what I paid for the stock small brembo pads. http://brakesdirect.com.au/aus/z152-...rake-pads.html
Last edited by 944crazy; 12-02-2015 at 05:30 AM.