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Old 06-09-2015, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fejjj
As per Joshua, with the ignition turned on/engine off the Green wire (signal wire) should read -1.6

With the engine idling it should be -.8 or so.
No, that wasn't a negative sign.
That was a tilde, meaning approximately:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde#Common_use


There should be no negative voltages from the MAP sensor (or much else for that matter).
Old 06-09-2015, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
No, that wasn't a negative sign.
That was a tilde, meaning approximately:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde#Common_use


There should be no negative voltages from the MAP sensor (or much else for that matter).

Thank you for clarifying.

I replaced the MAP sensor on Saturday but not the plug. The new plug has a 6 inch pigtail on it. So with the new plug and new wire I would have a splice at the plug end and a splice at the DME end.

Is that an issue or would I be better off buying another plug with a 4 foot harness?

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Old 06-09-2015, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fejjj
would I be better off buying another plug with a 4 foot harness?
Yes.
Old 06-09-2015, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant
Yes.

I would like to have one complete wire running from the MAP plug to the DME.

Does anyone know which pin extractor tool I need for the DME pins?
Old 06-09-2015, 08:23 PM
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I use one of these:

Eagle Day - terminal extraction tool

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Old 06-09-2015, 11:16 PM
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Thanks Jac.

$60 ouch!

I found this one on eBay.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-US
Old 06-10-2015, 07:08 AM
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The one you need is the upper purple one. A small precision flat-tip screwdriver also works well. Takes flipping the screwdriver a little to depress the catch. With the tool, the thickness of the blade depresses it just right. Push in, pull wire and terminal comes out. No wiggling needed.
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Replaced the MAP sensor plug and harness to the DME.

First drive revealed no change. Car would cut out under minimal boost.

I went home, grabbed the logger and went for a drive. This time the car boosted to 5200 with only a couple minor stumbles on the way to 5200. I did get the cut/backfire at 5200.

The MAP signal looks to be correct now.
Old 06-16-2015, 12:48 AM
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Can you post the log?

So, MAP sensor seems to be accurate, but you are still getting the cut of boost at 5200 and running rich?
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I will post the logs later. I wasn't paying as much attention to the AFR.

On the second drive I spoke about above, I did have a couple of minor stumbles before the cut/backfire at 5200.
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I have not read everything here but just want to check. Do you have the LR m-tune? If so what tune and is there a jumper wire already attached to the DME? If you read my recent thread about M-tune i had a factory jumper installed so i was rinning in Valet mode tune 6 when i thought i was in tune 5. Valet mode runs funny under load and cuts out at Rpm and boost

See my thread

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I will post the logs later. I wasn't paying as much attention to the AFR.

On the second drive I spoke about above, I did have a couple of minor stumbles before the cut/backfire at 5200.
Old 06-16-2015, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gruhsy
I have not read everything here but just want to check. Do you have the LR m-tune? If so what tune and is there a jumper wire already attached to the DME? If you read my recent thread about M-tune i had a factory jumper installed so i was rinning in Valet mode tune 6 when i thought i was in tune 5. Valet mode runs funny under load and cuts out at Rpm and boost

See my thread

Thanks for your input grushy.

The M Tune I have is pre LR which is different than your setup and Joshua has been helping me.
Old 06-16-2015, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fejjj
Replaced the MAP sensor plug and harness to the DME...The MAP signal looks to be correct now.
Yep, now time to move onto the other things I linked/mentioned earlier in the thread..
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Update!

My mechanic determined 2 things.

1. When it cuts out, the coil is losing the trigger signal from the KLR.

2. There is excessive ripple in the Alternator.

What should I do next?
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Alternator ripple can be due to poor grounding...

At this point, not addressing the grounds at the back of the motor, and battery would be asinine.
Don't just look at them, pull them off, clean them, inspect thoroughly, and re-install or replace as necessary.

While there, take the time to address the other things I mentioned in post #99.

Afterwords, if the problem persists and the KLR is suspect, then try replacing it with a known-good unit.


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