Upgraded from 951
08-05-2014, 12:30 PM
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Do realize that this is a 944 forum. People on here are not normal. If you had posted that you replaced the 944 with a Ferrari F50 you will probably get the same responses. Just replace "BMW" with "Ferrari".
"The F50 doesn't have enough torque", "They are way overpriced" blah blah blah
You are posting on forum with irrational people. Myself included!
"The F50 doesn't have enough torque", "They are way overpriced" blah blah blah
You are posting on forum with irrational people. Myself included!
08-05-2014, 01:14 PM
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And as for the 1... if memory serves correct, I remember it being pretty easy to get a 135 up over $50k. And for $50k... go for the 3-series. Kinda like the old 318ti - "starting under $20k" was hilarious because you certainly could never find one priced that low. If the 135 could be had for the mid-30s new, it'd be a hell of a car.
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08-06-2014, 01:02 AM
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08-06-2014, 01:04 AM
#44
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The 135i can be a very fun car. It is still too heavy IMO, but lighter than many comparable cars.
The 951 can be a pain in the *** to work on sometimes, but it is just nuts and bolts. I work on both Porsches and BMWs for a living, and the problem with modern BMWs (and Porsches) is that a factory level scan tool is needed to accurately diagnose and repair them, and more importantly, a technician who is knowledgeable and knows how all of the systems are supposed to work. As long as you aware of this, the 135i should be a great and fun car for a daily driver.
They are designed to understeer like pigs from the factory, so some combination of wider front wheels/tires and camber plates is a must if you want it to do anything on the track or autocross course. It also needs a limited slip diff BADLY!
The N54 engine runs WAAAAAY too hot as delivered. 270 degrees is considered a "normal" oil temp. There is a lot of info out there about additional oil cooling for these, though you must ensure that said oil cooler(s) have good inlet AND outlet flow. Without oil cooling, the engine will go into limp home mode on track. There are issues with water pumps fuel injectors, intake valve carbon buildup and wastegates/turbo oil/coolant line leaks, but I am sure you are aware of that.
A good customer of mine has a 2009 135i with Dinan Stage 3 upgrades to the engine software and their full suspension package and torque-biasing diff. He has been kind enough to let me autocross it and it is a hoot. Over 400 ft-lbs of RWTQ, it is a beast! Very fun, docile and comfortable on the street but crazy when you need it to be.
Good luck and have fun. I am keeping my 951!
The 951 can be a pain in the *** to work on sometimes, but it is just nuts and bolts. I work on both Porsches and BMWs for a living, and the problem with modern BMWs (and Porsches) is that a factory level scan tool is needed to accurately diagnose and repair them, and more importantly, a technician who is knowledgeable and knows how all of the systems are supposed to work. As long as you aware of this, the 135i should be a great and fun car for a daily driver.
They are designed to understeer like pigs from the factory, so some combination of wider front wheels/tires and camber plates is a must if you want it to do anything on the track or autocross course. It also needs a limited slip diff BADLY!
The N54 engine runs WAAAAAY too hot as delivered. 270 degrees is considered a "normal" oil temp. There is a lot of info out there about additional oil cooling for these, though you must ensure that said oil cooler(s) have good inlet AND outlet flow. Without oil cooling, the engine will go into limp home mode on track. There are issues with water pumps fuel injectors, intake valve carbon buildup and wastegates/turbo oil/coolant line leaks, but I am sure you are aware of that.
A good customer of mine has a 2009 135i with Dinan Stage 3 upgrades to the engine software and their full suspension package and torque-biasing diff. He has been kind enough to let me autocross it and it is a hoot. Over 400 ft-lbs of RWTQ, it is a beast! Very fun, docile and comfortable on the street but crazy when you need it to be.
Good luck and have fun. I am keeping my 951!