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Old 03-31-2014, 06:33 PM
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Default FQS - calculating additional fuel at #3 and #6

I'm not quite sure where to start.. I'm guessing a tuner would have psi and gpm numbers for each of the FQS settings, or anyone.

I'm trying to guestimate how each of the settings will affect my CA smog retest.

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No assistance?

My best guess would start with the pre and post Whichhunter flow numbers, its rough at best.

I'm thinking I'll do my retest at the 3% additional fuel setting.. if nothing else, I'll have a new set of numbers to work with to burn another $60.
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If you are running gasoline with 10% ethanol (E10), and an otherwise stock car, then you should be running on FQS position #1, which adds 3% fuel.
This is due to the 10% ethanol changing the stoichiometry of the fuel.

As a generality, adding fuel will raise HC, and help lower NOx.
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Thanks Joshua, I was about to send you a PM. I passed with my current set up on position #0, I figured #1 was a safe move. Here are my numbers..

Would it help to have my last tests numbers?
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I'm not up to speed on your situation...
Are you saying that the picture is from your latest test on position #0?

If so, then you have some room to trade off HC for NO. I would test again at either +6% fuel, or +6% fuel & 3° retard. (FQS position 3 and 7 respectively)

Additionally, make sure your exhaust is HOT. When you get to the testing center, if you can touch the tailpipe then the exhaust isn't hot enough.
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Are you saying that the picture is from your latest test on position #0?
Correct.

Test numbers two years ago were - nothing has been changed on the car since the last test.
15mph - HC 50ppm, CO .16%, NO 685ppm
25mph - HC 40ppm, CO .07%, NO 224ppm

Tech told me the dyno is reading 50% horsepower in the 15mph range and 15% horsepower in the 25mph range.

The car goes in hot and stays running until the test.

Thats why I was asking if the 3% would be good enough or just jump to 6%.. If you think the 6% is reasonable I'll run with it.

Stock plugs, stock DME, clean air filt, 18" Pzero 285's on the rear..
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Yeah, the 15mph test is where most 951s have issues.
I would go right to +6% for the test. After the test, then I would stick to +3% if you are running E10 fuel.
How old is your O2 sensor?

Make sure your tires are not low on pressure... if anything I would run a little high on rears for the test.
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Yep, rears are running about 58lbs for the test.

O2 was new Bosch two years ago for the last smog, I tested it Friday and dithers between .1 and .9v using the Clarks procedure.

New Magnaflow cat for the last test, pulled it within ~100hrs and reinstalled it for this test, aluminum taped the inlet under the wide band clamp to prevent contamination. No evidence of any upstream leaks.

I'll retest with the 6%.. I don't think I have to mess with timing just yet, I hate the idea of getting a new head over a smog test.
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Originally Posted by ibkevin
I hate the idea of getting a new head over a smog test.
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Temps and pre detonation...

Jacket water and intake air sensors are only a few years old, both Porsche stock parts.
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Unless your cylinder head is in need of a rebuild or has a lot of carbon build-up, it isn't going to affect emissions.
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Head rebuild done out in your nick of the woods about 10yrs ago, quality shop. Seafoamed about two years ago, w/o cat. I read up on foaming with the turbo, but at idle, I figured it was a safe move.
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*UPDATE*

Todays numbers at +6% fuel, stock timing..

HC - 22 out of 86
CO - .02 out of .50
CO2 - 14.7
O2 - .1
NOX - 689 out of 697

Tech was cool, test was in manual mode.. he's on my side.

The 6% smoothed out idle and brought it up about 150 rpm and I noticed a new knocking sound.
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try pure 100 unleaded( empty tank , put in 3 gallons, drive her hard, not so much boost, test again. or buy a new generic three way cat

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