Transmission Oil Overflow Tank
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Transmission Oil Overflow Tank
Anybody ever setup or have experience with transaxle overflow tanks on these cars (or any other car).
I did have a considerable amount of oil go out the overflow last year at a track event. The oil level was correct. I had to take some oil out to keep this from happening again. Sucked.... oil everywhere under the car.
TonyG
I did have a considerable amount of oil go out the overflow last year at a track event. The oil level was correct. I had to take some oil out to keep this from happening again. Sucked.... oil everywhere under the car.
TonyG
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Catch tank is required by some sanctioning bodies. The vent is replaced by a fitting to accommodate a line that runs to a standard catch can.
If you're losing gear lube, is it from the vent? If so, something's up, like you're running the level too high. What gearbox?
If you're losing gear lube, is it from the vent? If so, something's up, like you're running the level too high. What gearbox?
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86 951 Driver & michaelmount123,
Last year I had a case where the fluid came out of the overflow.
So I undid the fill bolt to check the level and there was a lot of pressure that had developed and oil was shooting out.
The trans was a 951 box with a Guard LSD using an external cooler with an external pump.
I would fill the trans and turn on the pump to fill the cooler, then add fluid until it reached the bottom of the fill port (as I had done many times before).
For some reason, it was too much. Oil coated everything in the back of the car as a result.
I don't want this to happen again, and is why I asked.
TonyG
Last year I had a case where the fluid came out of the overflow.
So I undid the fill bolt to check the level and there was a lot of pressure that had developed and oil was shooting out.
The trans was a 951 box with a Guard LSD using an external cooler with an external pump.
I would fill the trans and turn on the pump to fill the cooler, then add fluid until it reached the bottom of the fill port (as I had done many times before).
For some reason, it was too much. Oil coated everything in the back of the car as a result.
I don't want this to happen again, and is why I asked.
TonyG
Catch tank is required by some sanctioning bodies. The vent is replaced by a fitting to accommodate a line that runs to a standard catch can.
If you're losing gear lube, is it from the vent? If so, something's up, like you're running the level too high. What gearbox?
If you're losing gear lube, is it from the vent? If so, something's up, like you're running the level too high. What gearbox?
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I'm not sure how you pressurize the gearbox. Perhaps your external trans oil pump is cavitating, you might want to check that flow to it is of sufficient diameter and not blocked. Was the fluid foamy, did it show signs of churning? Is the radiator designed to cope with transmission fluid's viscosity? I have not seen this problem before in a 944-series gearbox.
Kevin
Catellus Engineering
Kevin
Catellus Engineering
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I'm not sure how you pressurize the gearbox. Perhaps your external trans oil pump is cavitating, you might want to check that flow to it is of sufficient diameter and not blocked. Was the fluid foamy, did it show signs of churning? Is the radiator designed to cope with transmission fluid's viscosity? I have not seen this problem before in a 944-series gearbox.
Kevin
Catellus Engineering
Kevin
Catellus Engineering
By taking out some of the oil, no other changes, the problem stopped.
The fluid was not foamy.
The trans pump is a gear rotor pump designed for very hot oil and has worked fine for several years of track use.
Anyway, like I said... I removed some oil and the problem went away.
Due to the massive oil cooler, the quantity of oil I have to install going to have to be a calculated quantity rather than a known quantity or simply filling to the top of the fill plug.
This is why I want to run the catch can in case I get too much in there.
I'll run a check valve into the catch can which will allow me to know how much is "too much". I can adjust from there until I get no oil in the catch can.
TonyG