blade7

996TT's start around £20k ish here, I would think a bells and whistles 3.0 944 turbo could get close to that. The 3.0 S2 turbo is interesting and I have a space set aside in my garage incase a bargain S2/2.7 engine turns up, if it doesn't I'll save myself the money, skinned knuckles and backache .

Tom M'Guinn

That's a myth. People who build 3 liter motors obviously have no common sense or impulse-restraint to start with, so there is no reason to think they will behave rationally to protect their investment once the engine is done. I've fully enjoyed the 15k miles I've put on my motor. I have a collection of blown up parts to prove it, including a couple blown up trannies and a scorched flywheel or two.

There are a million reasons not to waste all the money on a 3 liter 951, but all of them seem entirely irrelevant on a sunny Saturday afternoon when car is running great at 20+psi, knowing the 4 cylinder motor you built with your own hands can easily pull on those late-model over-waxed trophy cars....

Tom M'Guinn

At 16, you might start by really learning to drive the '84 n/a -- pca driving events are a great and virtually free way to get some solid instruction on driving that very capable car. Back in 1982, Porsche sent a factory race driver to Laguna Seca to promote the brand new 944. I got to take a few "hot laps" in that car with this pro driver -- it was bone stock right down to the tires. He got around the track so ridiculously fast, I was sold forever on the 944 platform. Once you get good at driving the N/A, you could always sell it and upgrade to a 951. Going from a N/A, even a mildly chipped car will feel like a rocket ship and honestly offers more performance than most of us can truly put to full use on the track.

Darwantae951

Driving a 3L and beating the snot out of it are two different driving styles. I drive the hell out of my car. The tune is correct, and the thing moves out like a bat outta hell. I'm by no means easy on it, and by no means a grandmother with the right pedal.

Lart, your statement is false, flat out.

333pg333

I love it. A 16 year old wanting the dirt on a 3L build. Gotta credit enthusiasm. To add, I would suggest to any kid wanting to improve their driving skills for a fraction of the price of racing a Porsche. Get a Kart!

mudbuddha

Mine is not a DD but when I do get to drive it, boost is set at approx 17 on pump all day only because with the extra torque down low and in the mid range, I don't need to crank the boost past 20 as I do with my previous 2.5Ls. The important thing is to get the motor built right and with the right supporting mods and of course, a good tune. To be honest, at 1.25 bar, the thing just squat and go and is scary addictive.

lart951

lol, got Tommy and Darling mad, I wont believe what you guys say until you guys post a video to prove it. show me what you got i dare you.

333pg333

Yeah….post videos or BAN!!!

lart951

yea

Tom M'Guinn

Oh Lart, we could never get mad at you... (unless you dare to sell used parts on rennlist of course).

DFASTEST951

I'm with Thom and Tom M'Guinn, except I wish I could've built mine with my own hands. It is ridiculuosly expensive. I'm on my fourth motor and a new tranny is on the way.

Walking from an F430 and running neck and neck with a Murcielago and a Venom 650 Viper was worth every penny. Now, with a few new friends that are going to help me wrench, and get upgrades, I'm looking for 600-650whp and similar tq. Not to mention my car weighs only 2900lbs. All newer cars are bricks. I was even shocked at the Venom 650 guy. That thing weighed about 3700lbs!

Darwantae951

lol

Tom M'Guinn

Some guys are just born that way. At 16 I made a cold air intake out of an icebox filled with ice to boost the output of my 6 cylinder Pontiac. I also made an exhaust hanger out of wood until it caught on fire -- and made my own accelerator cable out of wire I found i the garage until it sawed into the firewall and got stuck at wot. I could barely afford gas to go to and from school, so all repairs and "mods" were based on stuff I found around the house (or, technically, took off the house in the case of copper for exhaust gaskets, after learning my lesson with wood....)

Duke

Somtimes I think I should get rid of my garage and stop all this 944 stuff and just get a 996 TT with minor mods. It would have been way cheaper, but this is my hobby. So even though I get fed up with all work involved at times, in the end I don't regret having a ~600 hp 3.0l 16v engine in the garage
I built everything myself but even then I think the engine is in the $20k+ range.
EDIT: ehh probably closer to $30 when I think about it.
Oh well. In the 1000 kg race car it should even give the 700+ hp 996/997 race cars a run for the money

333pg333

Dukey...if that GTR car recently showed a clean pair of heels to all those Cups and RSRs (still can't quite figure that out?)...your's will be lapping them in 5 mins!! The lure of a worked 996tt especially after all the spending that some of us have done is real. I'd prefer a Cup S but what can we do? We're too far down the road now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=bV0vDa7Eprw