Pikington will make saratoga tops Again
#1216
As a new owner of a 944 S2, I am very interested in the Saratoga Sun-roof. In spite of the obvious problems raised in the 20 or so pages of recent posts... I am interested in this sunroof but don't know how to join the project.
Are there any saratoga roofs available, is there a way to purchase via Pilkington or Rennlist?
How does one join the queue?
I live in the NW part of France with permanent weather changes and have maybe more patience than average for something useful like this.
Thanks for any help
Are there any saratoga roofs available, is there a way to purchase via Pilkington or Rennlist?
How does one join the queue?
I live in the NW part of France with permanent weather changes and have maybe more patience than average for something useful like this.
Thanks for any help
#1217
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Could someone clarify what Pilkington mean by this? This from their site
http://www.pilkingtonclassics.com/saratoga-top/
Reading through this thread suggests that these top are replacements for the electric (i.e., powered) sunroofs. So what's with the "non-powered" bit in the above quote? Have they changed the design, or are they still selling the same roof?
http://www.pilkingtonclassics.com/saratoga-top/
Our re-introduced top, which is non-powered and clamps firmly into place just like the original, has a beautiful bronze finish [...]
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#1221
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So the current design they are selling is the same as the original group buy design, i.e., it works for late model electric power roofs, and is not a manual roof, despite their website description?
And have they released the kit for the failing rubber/plastic spacers that were prone to deformation yet?
And have they released the kit for the failing rubber/plastic spacers that were prone to deformation yet?
Last edited by Mark944na86; 02-17-2015 at 03:20 AM.
#1222
So the current design they are selling is the same as the original group buy design, i.e., it works for late model electric power roofs, and is not a manual roof, despite their website description?
And have they released the kit for the failing rubber/plastic spacers that were prone to deformation yet?
And have they released the kit for the failing rubber/plastic spacers that were prone to deformation yet?
Honestly I don't know how people who do this kind of $hit, and stay in business !!!!
#1223
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As for the kit ... you have a better chance of finding Jimmy Hoffa ... They completely dropped the ball and ran away ... There hasn't been an email on this from them in over 6 months...
Honestly I don't know how people who do this kind of $hit, and stay in business !!!!
Honestly I don't know how people who do this kind of $hit, and stay in business !!!!
#1224
OK, thanks for the clarification, I'll phone Pilkington to to confirm what's what, and point out the potentially misleading copy on their web page, if that's the case.
That sounds like it's a case of self-help, or no help at all. I'm surprised an enterprising soul hasn't already figured out a solution and offered it up to the community in the time honored fashion, though! From what I've read, it looks like a very modest engineering problem to solve... essentially finding a suitable replacement material for the deformable spacer.
That sounds like it's a case of self-help, or no help at all. I'm surprised an enterprising soul hasn't already figured out a solution and offered it up to the community in the time honored fashion, though! From what I've read, it looks like a very modest engineering problem to solve... essentially finding a suitable replacement material for the deformable spacer.
#1225
I re-glued the seal using weatherstrip adhesive. I also modified the clamp by removing the rubber piece and replacing it with a BMW hood spring that I cut to the right dimension. Not a perfect solution but definitely an improvement
Unfortunately, my car has been in storage since November so I haven't been able to test it much, especially at highway speeds. I'll post up some pics once I've had a chance to try it.
Unfortunately, my car has been in storage since November so I haven't been able to test it much, especially at highway speeds. I'll post up some pics once I've had a chance to try it.
#1226
You need to get in touch with an eBay seller called fejjj. This fejjj person has the new Pilkington Classics tops at $130 more than Pilkington's price ($550 shipped); however the eBay seller will ship overseas. Link to an auction below:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191517190843?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191517190843?
#1227
You need to get in touch with an eBay seller called fejjj. This fejjj person has the new Pilkington Classics tops at $130 more than Pilkington's price ($550 shipped); however the eBay seller will ship overseas. Link to an auction below: Porsche 944 Saratoga Top Glass Sunroof Worldwide Shipping 944 924 968 951 All | eBay
Last edited by Copilot; 02-25-2015 at 12:42 AM.
#1228
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You need to get in touch with an eBay seller called fejjj. This fejjj person has the new Pilkington Classics tops at $130 more than Pilkington's price ($550 shipped); however the eBay seller will ship overseas. Link to an auction below:
Porsche 944 Saratoga Top Glass Sunroof Worldwide Shipping 944 924 968 951 All | eBay
Porsche 944 Saratoga Top Glass Sunroof Worldwide Shipping 944 924 968 951 All | eBay
If you read closely, that fejjj guy is charging and additional $99 for "worldwide shipping". A bit of shopping around and you would be able to find several services that would reship for much less than the $230 or so difference between the ebay listing price and the Pilkington price.
You'll also get a new sunroof, rather than one with (at least) two previous owners!
Last edited by Mark944na86; 02-24-2015 at 12:23 PM.
#1230
Greg said - I also modified the clamp by removing the rubber piece and replacing it with a BMW hood spring that I cut to the right dimension. Not a perfect solution but definitely an improvement
Can you share a bit more details on this approach? A spring makes perfect sense - it keeps the tension on the clamps. Any concern about the metals tabs deforming any further? Which model BMW donated the spring?
Can you share a bit more details on this approach? A spring makes perfect sense - it keeps the tension on the clamps. Any concern about the metals tabs deforming any further? Which model BMW donated the spring?