rage2

[quote]Originally posted by Turby:
<strong>I went through 2 trannys 2 torque tubes and lots of CV's, joints, and bolts.</strong><hr></blockquote>

How can I forget about them CV bolts =). What did you do to strengthen them? I've stopped drag racing and I'm still killing off those CV joint bolts!

I also forgot to mention, the G-Tech Pro is WAY off in terms of ET and Trap speed in my car, mainly because my suspension is so soft right now, the car tilts forward heavily, fudging up the numbers. When I ran my 13.2, G-Tech showed me a 12.7 for the same run.

Peckster

These cars are too good for drag racing. It's not what they were made for.

Robby

I forgot to mention that my car was a bone stock turbo S w/130+K on it- I was running SP8000's too- I've compared a lot of times on my G-Tech and have found it's TIMES to be pretty damn accurate, although I know that a little tilt here or there can really throw it off (like Jseel said)- the SPEED on teh G-Tech has always seemed to be a couple mph high though...

ANYONE USED A G-TECH (OR ANYTHING) TO MEASURE THEIR 60-0 BRAKING DISTANCES)???

Turby

Rage......I just kept breaking them . If I did get stronger ones, you would also have to strengthen all the above.....joints, axles ect ect........

jseel

drag racing is a lot of fun, especially if its only 5 min. away. i dont see how it could be all that bad for the car, unless it cant accellerate from a dead stop to 100 mph. they're not made to do that? i would think that most road races start like a drag race. fast reaction time, get up to speed fast, etc. plus someone at porsche was running quarter miles, at least my owners manual says so.

Edman951

What the best way to launch a 951 with out killing it to much?

I've race my buddie a few time and the only way for me to beat them of the start is to drop the clutch at 3800-4000rpm and hold the gas 3/4 down or to the floor until i get up to 6500rpm and shift into second gear.

badcoupe

The best launches for me are at about 4000 and come outta the clutch slowly till I hear the turbo come on and then let it eat. My best short times are in the 1.8's. Never lift off the gas and never use the clutch! Just bang gears! I don't recommend not clutching though unless you like trans rebuilds. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />

Robby

[quote]Originally posted by jseel:
<strong>...i dont see how it could be all that bad for the car, unless it cant accellerate from a dead stop to 100 mph. they're not made to do that? </strong><hr></blockquote>

I tend to agree- I just usually let it go when people start preaching about how these cars can't take the abuse- I mean FU** dude- Acuras and Civics, etc seem to do fine- I know the more power you get and the better traction you have the harder it is on everything, but when I've pulled my best launches, they were a little under 4000, and I pretty much dropped it w/about 3/4 throttle, just like several of you posted above- that was enough to lay rubber from both wheels for at least 20ft or so- still, I come rolling out of the hole pretty fast- some people say you're not supposed to spin at ALL, but you really have to unless you've got gobs of low end, otherwise you bog- two examples- the 959 and two cars that were tested by SCC- a modified Audi A4Q and a 400HP AWD Talon turbo- those two, BTW, were actually faster in the rain b/c they couldn't spin enough in the dry...

RAD951

Is it possible to add replace the old 5 speed for a 6 speed 968 transmission?? I think that should help out alot on the 1/4 times and top speed right?

I think that would be the way to go if you plan to seriously drag the car

Robby

RADMAN- yes- several people have done the conversion- it's a good idea for strength too- the 968 is stronger- it's also heavier, but it's worth it in that respect (that's one reason why the 968s had better weight dist)- anyway, the redlines of a 951 are: 40, 67, 99, 134, 167 & the 968: 40, 63, 88, 114, 139, 156- not really good for a street car, but it would be nice for a dragster probably- at least until you've gone to a certain power level- you know, there are always equilibrium points. I don't like the 968 gearing personaly, but it's easily fixed if you're buying the trans for $300/gear- 1st can'tbe changed from what I understand, but that's fine- I would probably leave 2nd too, and change the top 4- another prob is the speedo- it connects differently, and everyone says it can't be hooked up, but there are several ways that people have come up w/to make it work, but I'm not sure if they're proven yet. There is a specific thread on this on either the turbo board or the regular one- check it out...

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951PeterX

Hello i have dragraced my car my times were:
I live in Sweden so i write my speed in kilometer/ hour.....

0 - 100 Km/h: 5.28 sec.
1/8 mile: 9.09/ 137 KM/H.
1/4 mile: 14.4/ 167 KM/H. I am not satisfied with this run the car can go better but it started to rain so i will try anoher time again.
I ran with 17"Cup 3 rims 255/40/17.

My car is an 951 Turbo 1989 us-version. 030 package and diff 40%.It is equipped with chip k&n filter another wastegate.O-ringed and so on...

/Peter..-Sweden.

Mike S.

Omniphil (et als of course),

I'm partially with Peckster on this one in that "It's not what they were made for." Stock 944 turbos shine when you're at 50 and looking for 120 mph on the back straight. Modded 944 turbos turn up the intensity quite a bit. Several guys on this site have seriously modded cars and a few have posted on this thread (e.g. rage2, Danno, Turby) so I think you got a real good read on the upper end of what you could expect. These are all superb handling cars, especially at high speed and they are IMHO most at home on a road course. But at 3000 lb and with 4 cylinders, the torque just isn't there at low rpm's to accelerate our cars and make it appear like a serious drag car. And you can see that things start to break when you have a modest to seriously modded car and try to squeeze yourself into the sub 13 second range (too often).

Out of curiousity, have you done or plan to DE with your car?

Mike

Kuma

<img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> YES!!!! <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />
Finally a thread where people don't flame so hard on the street racers.

<img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> **IDEA** <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />
What about a Street Racing Forum on the Board?
I know there won't be as many people Posting on it, but maybe the few of us who are not afraid to DESTROY a tranny if it means smoking a RX7 or Supra and showing them that German Engineering DOMINATES ALL!!!......

Even the 1/4

TKT2RDE

I have an ongoing personal debate on this issue as well... and I think I have decided that the issue has little to do with the car and mostly to do with the culture. Certainly, a Porsche wasn't "designed" for drag racing. However, this is true for most modern cars. Aside from a few cars out there (i.e. Ford Lightning... a Truck), engineers haven't had drag racing in mind since the muscle-car era. I will say that with the exploding import drag racing scene that engineers will no doubt orient at least some of their thinking in that direction in the years to come.

I have alot of respect for all of the car cultures out there. This forum has a great mix. The Purist, The Road Racer, The Dragster... you are all here.

The only thing I do not understand is those of you posting about how the Porsche wasn't designed for Drag Racing. Of course it wasn't, but it's original design also did not include your Huntley MAF, Weltmeister Chips, Garrett Turbo Charger, etc.

IMHO, I think all of this stuff is GREAT! I love to see a proud Purist at an autoshow with their pristine 356. I am green with envy when I attend a DE and witness individuals with highly modified 930's ripping through "the bitch" (nickname for a turn) at Hallett Motor Racing Circuit near my home. And in May of 2000, I was glad to see Eddie Bello's 960HP Wheel-Standing (in 2nd gear) 911 on the cover of "Turbo" magazine. (9.17 E.T. @ 161mph, on Toyo street tires)

I think it boils down to this... as the car leaves the assembly line, it's a competition between manufacturers... and Porsche has always done well here. Once the car reaches the Road Racers and Dragsters, it's a competition between each other dedicated to representing that Manufacturer.

So, I guess my 2 cents is: Kudo's to anyone wanting to represent Porsche and be competitive in Drag Racing or otherwise 'cuz I love 'em. <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" />

Mike S.

Kuma,

That's (Street Racing Forum) funny! Thanks for the levity.

Mike