Upgraded I/C experiences
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Upgraded I/C experiences
I am awaiting a SFR front mount for the 951, got the GURU chips, profec-b, Lindsey dual port, Lindsey BOV, full Fabspeed exhaust, K&N cone and all the susp. goodies. Just wanted to hear what to expect with this ugrade, On my race car the I/C efficiency and pressure drop are real important for top end power and spool up.
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I have the Lindsey stage 5 intercooler on my race car .. it works great. Not sure why u went with the SFR unit.
I have a large garret turbo, custom intake, highly worked head ..etc, etc ... very fast. Good luck with the car.
I have a large garret turbo, custom intake, highly worked head ..etc, etc ... very fast. Good luck with the car.
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i was incredibly happy w/ my lindsey stage 1 unit, and expect to really love the stage 5 (i felt it was more appropriate w/ the other things i've done intake / turbo / head / stroker / exhaust / etc wise... ) - i chose lindsey for 3 reasons, one, i could trade up, two, stock mounting location (although you need a dif. header panel for the stage 5, no big deal for me as i was replacing mine anyway) and third, i've given them a lotta business and haven't had a single lindsey product i wasn't thrilled with. I've just started doing business w/ Tim, he seems to be a good vendor too, but frankly the price dif. for his IC vs me trading up to the lindsey stage 5 was prohibitive for me (i'm working on my sr. thesis film right now, gotta cut back on 951 expenditures lol)
i would think you will experience a bit more pressure drop / slightly slower spool perhaps (don't quote me) just due to the IC being larger + more piping? but i bet the improved IC-out temps will make that worth it. I have zero experience w/ Tim's front mount, but w/ the exception of people's (unconfirmed) concerns about raised water temps, I would imagine it's a great product, wouldn't this kinda question be better to ask _before_ buying?
i would think you will experience a bit more pressure drop / slightly slower spool perhaps (don't quote me) just due to the IC being larger + more piping? but i bet the improved IC-out temps will make that worth it. I have zero experience w/ Tim's front mount, but w/ the exception of people's (unconfirmed) concerns about raised water temps, I would imagine it's a great product, wouldn't this kinda question be better to ask _before_ buying?
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With less pressure drop you will get better spool up. Also with signifigant cooling gains you will get more timing(better response and spool up). I just wanted to see if anyone has used the product also. I have full confidence that Tim'sI/C will work great.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by streckfu's951:
<strong>Have you changed your turbo? If not, you probably won't notice much with a stock turbo.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">The turbo and a GURU MAP+65# inj are next. We have picked up 7-8mph(1/4 mile, but a true judge of power) in a Talon from going from a stock I/C to a front mount with a stock turbo, plus a ton better spool up.
<strong>Have you changed your turbo? If not, you probably won't notice much with a stock turbo.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">The turbo and a GURU MAP+65# inj are next. We have picked up 7-8mph(1/4 mile, but a true judge of power) in a Talon from going from a stock I/C to a front mount with a stock turbo, plus a ton better spool up.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by CBRE:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by streckfu's951:
<strong>Have you changed your turbo? If not, you probably won't notice much with a stock turbo.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">The turbo and a GURU MAP+65# inj are next. We have picked up 7-8mph(1/4 mile, but a true judge of power) in a Talon from going from a stock I/C to a front mount with a stock turbo, plus a ton better spool up.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Well your 951 isn't a talon, is it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Seriously though, your money is probably better spent on a dozen other things than a different/bigger intercooler, but if it's part of your final plan, then you might as well get it now. The stock unit is pretty good as it is though, there are plenty of people that are using them with pretty powerful cars.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by streckfu's951:
<strong>Have you changed your turbo? If not, you probably won't notice much with a stock turbo.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">The turbo and a GURU MAP+65# inj are next. We have picked up 7-8mph(1/4 mile, but a true judge of power) in a Talon from going from a stock I/C to a front mount with a stock turbo, plus a ton better spool up.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Well your 951 isn't a talon, is it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Seriously though, your money is probably better spent on a dozen other things than a different/bigger intercooler, but if it's part of your final plan, then you might as well get it now. The stock unit is pretty good as it is though, there are plenty of people that are using them with pretty powerful cars.
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I have the Lindsey stage 5 intercooler on my race car .. it works great. Not sure why u went
with the SFR unit.
I can list a few reasons:
It was dyno proven to deliver at least 14 horsepower.
It is much more efficient then the stock core so it flows more air.
It does not require a new nose panel.
It has no affect on the CD. of the car.
It uses a Spearco core.
It looks stealth so it doesnt attract attention.
It has had no impact on coolant temps (regardless of what our competition says).
It is priced at $1095.
with the SFR unit.
I can list a few reasons:
It was dyno proven to deliver at least 14 horsepower.
It is much more efficient then the stock core so it flows more air.
It does not require a new nose panel.
It has no affect on the CD. of the car.
It uses a Spearco core.
It looks stealth so it doesnt attract attention.
It has had no impact on coolant temps (regardless of what our competition says).
It is priced at $1095.
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the new nose panel would stray me away from any intercooler upgrade. I love lindsey, but man that nose panel is hideous. it really looks like a mac track and totally ruins the lines of the car. I would do anything to keep it stock looking up front. my .02
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i love the new header panel. I guess it's a love it / hate it kinda thing.
IMHO i beleive the stock intercooler is excellent. Powerhaus even uses stock 944 turbo IC's on their 968 turbo conversions.
I'm thinking about the lindsey header panel w/ my stock IC and make my own ducting.
IMHO i beleive the stock intercooler is excellent. Powerhaus even uses stock 944 turbo IC's on their 968 turbo conversions.
I'm thinking about the lindsey header panel w/ my stock IC and make my own ducting.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by TonyG:
<strong>ruins the "lines" of the front end.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">one could argue that your obsrevation is what makes it look aggressive.
<strong>ruins the "lines" of the front end.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">one could argue that your obsrevation is what makes it look aggressive.
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I'm not sure of what you mean... but I think the Lindsey products are great in general. That includes their stage 5 intercooler, although I've never tried one.
The thing is that I won't have a "snorkle" look on the front of my 951's. I just don't like the looks.
Furthermore, I think you could easily get an aftermarket intercooler that won't require changing the front end of the car.
The thing is that I won't have a "snorkle" look on the front of my 951's. I just don't like the looks.
Furthermore, I think you could easily get an aftermarket intercooler that won't require changing the front end of the car.
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i like my new nose panel... *shrugs* matter of opinion. and i'd love to see #s on the CD issue, i bet its quite negligible.
tim, you and lindsey REALLY need to bury the hatchet, competition is one thing, bickering, quite another beast. i know it's not all you, in fact i bet its pretty close to 50-50, but at least post factual info if you're gonna knock your competitor’s products I know someone (them? not sure) said things about your IC causing cooling issues, if that's not true and is unfounded slander, fine, i can see being pissed, but no need to retaliate, makes you look bad instead of them.
btw, lindsey uses a spearco core too i believe...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">
The new Lindsey Racing Stage V Intercooler bumped up the flow from 205 to 280 CFM @ 28" and improved the cooling drop 40 degrees over the stock intercooler with a larger Spearco core with additional air supplied to it.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><a href="http://www.lindseyracing.com/944eng11.htm" target="_blank">http://www.lindseyracing.com/944eng11.htm</a>
tim, you and lindsey REALLY need to bury the hatchet, competition is one thing, bickering, quite another beast. i know it's not all you, in fact i bet its pretty close to 50-50, but at least post factual info if you're gonna knock your competitor’s products I know someone (them? not sure) said things about your IC causing cooling issues, if that's not true and is unfounded slander, fine, i can see being pissed, but no need to retaliate, makes you look bad instead of them.
btw, lindsey uses a spearco core too i believe...
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">
The new Lindsey Racing Stage V Intercooler bumped up the flow from 205 to 280 CFM @ 28" and improved the cooling drop 40 degrees over the stock intercooler with a larger Spearco core with additional air supplied to it.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><a href="http://www.lindseyracing.com/944eng11.htm" target="_blank">http://www.lindseyracing.com/944eng11.htm</a>