951 VIN # ??
06-05-2003, 08:43 AM
#1
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951 VIN # ??
Vin starts with WP0.. Is this a Euro?
If so, what are the diffrences from US models and how does it effect values?
TIA.
If so, what are the diffrences from US models and how does it effect values?
TIA.
06-05-2003, 08:54 AM
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Hi Abby, AFAIK, all Porsche VINs should start with WP0.
The difference is in the subsequent digits. Euro 951 cars have VINs with Zs: "WPOZZZ95Z_N1xxxxx," whereas PCNA cars have codes instead of the Zs.
For instance, my U.S. specifications 944S2 cabrio is "WP0CB2943LN4xxxxx" where the WPO represents the builder code for Porsche, the C stands for cabriolet, the B stands for normally aspirated engine, and the 2 for Airbags.
The following 2 digits are the same for Euro and PCNA cars, where 94 represents 944 and 95, 951. Then comes another Z for the Euro cars, which is filled with a test code on PCNA cars. My S2 has a 3.
Then comes the production year and factory letters, again the same for both. L stands for 1990 and N stands for the Audi factory in Neckarsulm.
Then comes the 3rd model designation digit. In the case of a 951 there should be a 1, for a 944 there should be a 4.
Lastly, the final 5 digits are the serial number proper.
As for market value, generally, Euro specification cars brought into North America are referred to as "gray market" cars and usually have lower market value. Likewise, American specification cars are worth less here in Europe.
HTH
The difference is in the subsequent digits. Euro 951 cars have VINs with Zs: "WPOZZZ95Z_N1xxxxx," whereas PCNA cars have codes instead of the Zs.
For instance, my U.S. specifications 944S2 cabrio is "WP0CB2943LN4xxxxx" where the WPO represents the builder code for Porsche, the C stands for cabriolet, the B stands for normally aspirated engine, and the 2 for Airbags.
The following 2 digits are the same for Euro and PCNA cars, where 94 represents 944 and 95, 951. Then comes another Z for the Euro cars, which is filled with a test code on PCNA cars. My S2 has a 3.
Then comes the production year and factory letters, again the same for both. L stands for 1990 and N stands for the Audi factory in Neckarsulm.
Then comes the 3rd model designation digit. In the case of a 951 there should be a 1, for a 944 there should be a 4.
Lastly, the final 5 digits are the serial number proper.
As for market value, generally, Euro specification cars brought into North America are referred to as "gray market" cars and usually have lower market value. Likewise, American specification cars are worth less here in Europe.
HTH
06-06-2003, 01:18 AM
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here's what you want to decode the Porsche VIN#'s
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/4786/VINAnat.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/4786/VINAnat.html</a>
<a href="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/4786/VINAnat.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/4786/VINAnat.html</a>
06-06-2003, 06:18 AM
#6
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">As for market value, generally, Euro specification cars brought into North America are referred to as "gray market" cars and usually have lower market value. Likewise, American specification cars are worth less here in Europe </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">US spec cars can be even higer value cars here in europe. Mainly because US models are usually better equiped than euro models (A/C , air bags etc.)
06-06-2003, 09:15 AM
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Equally equipped cars are generally worth less when out of their respective market.
I guess Finland is more open to U.S. specification cars. I know for a fact that in Germany, Italy, and Spain, a "national" car has higher resale value than a U.S. car (speedo in miles, sidemarkers, big bumpers, etc.)
However, given the rarity of "full equipe" 951s, I'm sure a U.S. spec car with all the goodies has comparable or higher resale value than a plain Euro 951. I brought a U.S. S2 Cabrio to Spain, a fairly rare model, and I get the "oh, but it's U.S. specs," all the time from people interested in the car.
I guess Finland is more open to U.S. specification cars. I know for a fact that in Germany, Italy, and Spain, a "national" car has higher resale value than a U.S. car (speedo in miles, sidemarkers, big bumpers, etc.)
However, given the rarity of "full equipe" 951s, I'm sure a U.S. spec car with all the goodies has comparable or higher resale value than a plain Euro 951. I brought a U.S. S2 Cabrio to Spain, a fairly rare model, and I get the "oh, but it's U.S. specs," all the time from people interested in the car.
