blitz951

Does anyone have any experience with this intercooler(Lindsey stage V), is it worth the money? I was on their site and they mention how the stock configuration is a must for our cars otherwise flow to the radiatior is obstructed causing overheating. Is this the case? This leads me to ask about the SFR intercooler and for those who own one what has been your experience?

DangerIsland

The stock config does not interfere with the radiator and lead to overheating, that's just plain wrong. A front-mount intercooler WOULD lead to problems, but the stock one does not.

Now that I've read it, Lindsey's site doesn't say that the stock one will overheat the car, they say that a front-mounted one will. Their intercooler looks really nice, actually.

$1200 + $200 for the hood panel is pretty darn expensive though, I don't think that's something you would need unless you've really gone and built a really high powered motor that needs the extra cooling. SFR's is also pretty expensive, and it's mounted down in front of the radiator, etc. which could (in theory) lead to problems. I think that a well designed radiator duct could solve them, though.

Luke

I think the stock intercooler is AWESOME. I can't beleive how well it works. Hard to imagine one can improve on it ( or need to ) flowing less air than 400 hp worth.

rage2

If you want to hit big HP numbers on *PUMP GAS*, I'd say a larger and more efficient intercooler is required. Blockage, who knows, I'll let you know when I pick up my SFR I/C .

CarreraCup03

I have the lindsey stage V intercooler. My car has 347 rwhp at 14 lbs of boost ... when the motor is broken in I will use 18 lbs of boost ... I am counting on that intercooler working. I have no before and after numbers ... but it certainly looks much bigger.

944turbo

Alan C.

I was with a friend when he did back to back runs with the Lindsey Stage 2 and the stage 5. The stage 5 resulted in a 30 degree cooler intake charge and about a 15 hp gain at 21 psi and 400 rwhp. The runs were done within 30 minutes of each other.

Alan C.

Sami951

Am I completely off the track here, or wouldn't a larger intercooler allow higher "safe" boost levels b/c the intake temperatures would stay lower? So with stock intercooler you'd be able to run, say ... 18 psi, 350 rwhp, and with a huge intercooler you could go for 21 psi and maybe 400+ rwhp? (numbers made up but you get the point)

dmoffitt

i've got one on the way, can't wait. i had their stage1 but felt that w/ my bigger turbo, higher boost, and 2.8L this would be a worthwhile gain, if even for safety. i already had their header panel cuz i wanted to eliminate my flip-up lights... yes it's all a touch steep, but i've been nothing but THRILLED from everything lindsey sold me (spent well over 15k with them in the past 6 months), so i think this piece will be worth it.

i don't expect any issues with radiator blockage as it doesn't sit any lower than the stock one (unlike the SFR and other spearco-core-based setups. not knocking them, just an observation. one thing that DOES interest me is tim's idea of reversing flow, kinda neat way to shorten plumbing).

only issue i could expect is perhaps an extra 1-200 rpm later spooling due to the extra volume?

TurboTim

Hey guys, you can throw theories and observations out the door because we have been using our front mont intercooler for over 5 years now! Besides that, every rice rocket in the country has a front mount intercooler and you never see them with overheating problems and there cooling system capacity is nowhere near what the 944 turbo is. Look at the oil cooled 911 turbos.They use massive top mount intercoolers that completely block off the majority of airflow to the engine (remember these cars need air to keep them cool) and you never see them having problems with overheating. Another thing you should know is that the cooling of the charge air has a direct relation to coolant temperatures. If the charge air is colder, the heat transfer to the coolant system will be lower which means the coolant temp will drop. This is simple thermodynamics. So now this brings up a good point.........if you beleive everything you read about our products on one of our competitors websites then....... you are simply believing in all their hype without any proof to back up their claims.

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We made an addional 14 horsepower at the wheels on a test car five years ago! This test car also had the stock cat in it. The best thing about our intercooler is it does not mess with the aerodynamics of your front end. The 944 turbo has a CD of .34. What does it have with that ugly nose panel from Lindsey? We also made some changes to our intercooler by using better end tanks and we lowered the price down to $1095 for the complete package. Our intercooler can also be used with your stock intercooler pipe or anyones aftermarket pipes.Take care.

TurboTim

only issue i could expect is perhaps an extra 1-200 rpm later spooling due to the extra
volume?

More volume means more lag.

dmoffitt

nobody said anything about hype without proof / anything bad about you or your products tim. my comment was based on an observation with several friends' turboed cars' intercoolers (which also use spearco cores, as does the lindsey stage V, i was more refering to an FMIC, mounted much like you do, that's where i drew the comparison). did i mention a potential problem as "expect any issues"? yes. did i condemn it and say "this product is ugly and poor quality and should never be bought"? no. I guess you didn't notice i was COMPLIMENTING YOUR SETUP re: the ic piping, and was simply relaying an observation or concern about putting the IC in front of the radiator like that.

BTW - i like the look of my "ugly nose panel from Lindsey" thank you very much. more so than the two-hole modified ducted panel you and several other tuners offer. to each his own i guess, otherwise we'd all drive cars that looked exactly alike. the difference is, you don't see me posting "TurboTim's car is ugly" whereas that's essentially what you said there about mine. have a little respect please.

oh and for the sake of clarity in reading posts -
can you and everyone else please take the extra second to use the "QUOTE" tag... it gets confusing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

CarreraCup03

I also have the Lindsey "ugly" nose piece .. I like it .. and get alot of compliments at the track. Also .. I have a Lindsey stage V intercooler ... and it has works great at the track under high boost and extreme heat.
Look at Alan C.'s post above for the Lindsey stage 2 - V comparison. I think it speaks for itself. I also have most of the Lindsey race parts on my engine ... I have been extremely impressed with the quality and performance of their products under extreme race conditions.
I can not say that for most of the other aftermarket parts that I have bought over the years ... they have all been taken off and sold .. and happily replaced with Lindsey parts.

944turbo

Luke

I love the ugly nose panel. It has the same aggressive-ness of a 930's pizza tray.

Dan Gallagher

i like the nose piece but aerodynamics is a good point.

CarreraCup03

LOL ... the nose piece doesnt seem to be slowing me down!

944turbo