Another help me choose turbo thread
09-08-2011, 04:30 PM
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Another help me choose turbo thread
So, I have started looking at new turbos, and to be honest I have no idea what to buy. Supporting mods will be: M-Tune, injectors and 3" exhaust. Car will be used on mostly narrow tracks, so turbo lag and on/off throttle response is important.
SFR has a few good choices, the GT30R and the Precision both look very tempting. Are there any other experts wort considering? I'd rather put some extra money in to the turbo and get what I want, than go cheap and be unhappy.
http://www.speedforceracing.com/inde...categoryID=585
Please let me know your experiences with different turbos. I'd rather copy a good setup than try to reinvent the wheel again.
SFR has a few good choices, the GT30R and the Precision both look very tempting. Are there any other experts wort considering? I'd rather put some extra money in to the turbo and get what I want, than go cheap and be unhappy.
http://www.speedforceracing.com/inde...categoryID=585
Please let me know your experiences with different turbos. I'd rather copy a good setup than try to reinvent the wheel again.
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09-08-2011, 05:17 PM
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I am currently installing a Garrett TO4E .50 trim turbo with a replica KKK#8 turbine housing. May want to check out this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...er-tuning.html
Also, i think I would stay clear of SFR as they seem to be having issues, see here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...sfr-order.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...er-tuning.html
Also, i think I would stay clear of SFR as they seem to be having issues, see here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...sfr-order.html
09-08-2011, 06:43 PM
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09-08-2011, 07:04 PM
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09-08-2011, 07:14 PM
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You have many choices, and I've found paying a little more to get exactly what you want is worth the few bucks.
John at www.vitesseracing.com is repuatable, and I haven't heard of any one not happy with his turbos. I referred him to my engine builder, but Garrity chose his own setup, not John's. John is still willing to help me whenever I post with a question.
John at www.vitesseracing.com is repuatable, and I haven't heard of any one not happy with his turbos. I referred him to my engine builder, but Garrity chose his own setup, not John's. John is still willing to help me whenever I post with a question.
09-09-2011, 02:03 AM
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Thanks guys. Vitesse looks good, but being a non BB turbo the on/off throttle response worries me a bit. Have read a lot of good things about Garrett TO4E .50 trim and GT30 turbos. Does anyone have experience with both turbos? It would be great if someone could comment on how they compare.
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09-09-2011, 03:22 AM
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You have many choices, and I've found paying a little more to get exactly what you want is worth the few bucks.
John at www.vitesseracing.com is repuatable, and I haven't heard of any one not happy with his turbos. I referred him to my engine builder, but Garrity chose his own setup, not John's. John is still willing to help me whenever I post with a question.
John at www.vitesseracing.com is repuatable, and I haven't heard of any one not happy with his turbos. I referred him to my engine builder, but Garrity chose his own setup, not John's. John is still willing to help me whenever I post with a question.
, I really can't see anything being better ...I just dont know how ...... It's more than I could have ever expected ...
09-09-2011, 05:57 AM
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It has to bolt on to the engine mounting, but welding new flanges to x-over an DP should no be a massive problem. I assume that suppliers like Lindsey would have no problem supplying a DP with the proper mounting. Actually, V-Band clamps would be really neat when doing maintenance work.
09-09-2011, 06:18 AM
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It has to bolt on to the engine mounting, but welding new flanges to x-over an DP should no be a massive problem. I assume that suppliers like Lindsey would have no problem supplying a DP with the proper mounting. Actually, V-Band clamps would be really neat when doing maintenance work.
have a quick look through my thread Here and you'll see what needs to be done for a GT30R install. it's not finished yet but you'll see.
the GT30R can bolt on to the stock mounts, just need to grind the mount down abit and find longer bolts and a t3/t4 to gt30r adapter to bolt on but the down pipe and xover wont line up with the exhaust housing.
You're better off going with vitesse, i know you're not to happy about it because its not dbb and you want quick spool. but from alot of reasearch i've done and asking questions, talking to john and others, the vittesse turbos spool up exactly like the 26/8 and deliver good power.
unless you can find a t04e 50 trim with a #8 rear housing go for that turbo or even #10 rear housing id go for either of those. i know Pauertuning use to sell them but they've stopped when i last checked but was at the start of the year. dosn't hurt to send him an email asking about those turbos though.
09-09-2011, 06:33 AM
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i'd take the GT30R out of the picture then.
have a quick look through my thread Here and you'll see what needs to be done for a GT30R install. it's not finished yet but you'll see.
the GT30R can bolt on to the stock mounts, just need to grind the mount down abit and find longer bolts and a t3/t4 to gt30r adapter to bolt on but the down pipe and xover wont line up with the exhaust housing.
You're better off going with vitesse, i know you're not to happy about it because its not dbb and you want quick spool. but from alot of reasearch i've done and asking questions, talking to john and others, the vittesse turbos spool up exactly like the 26/8 and deliver good power.
unless you can find a t04e 50 trim with a #8 rear housing go for that turbo or even #10 rear housing id go for either of those. i know Pauertuning use to sell them but they've stopped when i last checked but was at the start of the year. dosn't hurt to send him an email asking about those turbos though.
have a quick look through my thread Here and you'll see what needs to be done for a GT30R install. it's not finished yet but you'll see.
the GT30R can bolt on to the stock mounts, just need to grind the mount down abit and find longer bolts and a t3/t4 to gt30r adapter to bolt on but the down pipe and xover wont line up with the exhaust housing.
You're better off going with vitesse, i know you're not to happy about it because its not dbb and you want quick spool. but from alot of reasearch i've done and asking questions, talking to john and others, the vittesse turbos spool up exactly like the 26/8 and deliver good power.
unless you can find a t04e 50 trim with a #8 rear housing go for that turbo or even #10 rear housing id go for either of those. i know Pauertuning use to sell them but they've stopped when i last checked but was at the start of the year. dosn't hurt to send him an email asking about those turbos though.
I do wonder how much better a GT30 would be, is it worth going through all that trouble you are doing? Also did not CEP make a GT30 engine mount?
09-09-2011, 08:39 AM
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You need to get the car tuned right. I went with a garrett hybrid turbo capable of 650hp+, 3" down pipe. Not that this motor could handle that HP. Also went with 3bar reg, upgraded motor and the Mtune with 80lb injectors. You need to put the whole thing together on paper first. Once you have an idea what you are looking for, then see what your pocket can handle and go for it. I had my turbo built by Gpopshop.com They are in arkansas, look them up. Good luck.
09-09-2011, 09:46 AM
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What about SFR GT30R? (not considering their delivery problem) http://www.speedforceracing.com/index.php?productID=768
I do wonder how much better a GT30 would be, is it worth going through all that trouble you are doing? Also did not CEP make a GT30 engine mount?
I do wonder how much better a GT30 would be, is it worth going through all that trouble you are doing? Also did not CEP make a GT30 engine mount?
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What about SFR GT30R? (not considering their delivery problem) http://www.speedforceracing.com/index.php?productID=768
I do wonder how much better a GT30 would be, is it worth going through all that trouble you are doing? Also did not CEP make a GT30 engine mount?
I do wonder how much better a GT30 would be, is it worth going through all that trouble you are doing? Also did not CEP make a GT30 engine mount?
is it worth the trouble? i don't know to be honest. it depends if you like fab/custom work. i don't mind it, i quite enjoy it.. but that's me. the real reason why i wanted a gt30r was because of the low back pressure hot housings compared to the kkk ones.
CEP did make a gt turbo mount, so did TiAL. give them an email or a call for their mount. i'm pretty sure Patrick (333pg333) has 1 lying around if i can recall.
it's just the custom down pipe and up pipe you'll need to fab up and that's it.