Brett

Thanks Danno for the great information. I definately want one of your Stage 2 MAP kits.

Now with that kit is there anything else that I would need to upgrade? I want the whole system to be nice and complete.

Thanks again for your help.

Brian McCoy

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Another convert... Danno, I just hope that you don't suddenly decide to form a cult and convince people that a space-ship is coming to pick them up.... you'd undoubtidly would be able to convince a small army to join you..

<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> &lt;&lt;-- Danno's cult of worshipers do this through 3 gears..

yoyoguy2

great danno, now i think the only question you didn't answer in that post is "when is the 364 kit going to be ready?????" i want to hear some success stories before i think about laying down the cash next summer, let's get a move on things!

Mike B

[quote]Alright I think we can set a time-frame for the GURU-364 introduction. Tentatively it will be mid- to late-January !!!<hr></blockquote>

See Danno's post under<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=18&t=003269" target="_blank">Question for GuruRacing - K26/6 to K26/8 & MAP 1</a>

Brett

Does anyone have a rough figure on how much the GURU 364 Kit will cost.

GaryK

Hey Brett, I live about 10 miles from you and have a '89 951 with about 300rwhp and a few suspension, brake, etc upgrades. I thought it was a rare find in Colorado when I bought it last year, but then heard of 2 other S's that changed hands locally the same month (none with the low mileage of yours).

Tell your neighbor with the 355 he doesn't stand a chance against my car at this altitude and I challenge him to some fun laps at the Pueblo road course as well.

And watch out for all the dump a**es in SUV's here that like to tailgate Porsches on the highway.

Brett

Yeah no kidding someones allways riding me if im not going over 60 on parker road.

This is a little of topic but last spring i was on parker rd. and was following a cadillac sts doing 5mph under the speed limit

so i get around him and pull back in front. he thinks i cut him off and is all over me in my 944. So with the great brakes in the 44 i give him a brake check and he almost ends up in my back seat with his 7,000 lb. car.

Next thing i know he tries to follow me at high speed but quickly fades as i hit 120mph (road was empty)

GaryK

How does 120mph from a standing start on the 7000ft elevation uphill on-ramp on Surrey Ridge sound? (not me of course).

BTW, my car has an Authority MAF and chips (courtesy of previous owner) as well as a Garrett turbo, test pipe, adjustable FPR, etc. The MAF, a Proflow unit circa 1995, has no external adjustments. I have no driveability issues, good power and gas mileage, and the fuel curve is ok, if a little rich up top. It produced 300rwhp and 328rwtq at 15psi boost, but I've made a few improvements and am hoping to see about 320rwhp at 16psi when I revisit the dyno in Denver.

Even so, I would not recommend a MAF system to you if for no other reason than it's lack of tuneability. I'd certainly be looking at a MAP system if I had to do it over again from stock.

Russ Murphy

Good luck with your upgrades Brett. You are on the right path young Skywalker.
[quote] Ok, fast-forward a couple decades and we're looking at what actually makes it into the engine. <hr></blockquote>
A couple of decades! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

My944Turbo

[quote]Originally posted by Brett:
<strong>Next thing i know he tries to follow me at high speed but quickly fades as i hit 120mph (road was empty) </strong><hr></blockquote>

That's is pretty risky considering the amount of Parker, DC, and state patrol cops that hang out on parker road. I really think Parker should be called, "over-patrolling cops giving out 1mph over speeding tickets because they have nothing better to do in a town with no crime and lots of cars" Stupid budget shortfalls.

Anyway, off rant. Not to say that it isn't a nice straight road down south...and i've done the same thing...put shhhh, don't tell.
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Brett

[quote]You are on the right path young Skywalker <hr></blockquote>
Thanks I really want to do it right the first time. [quote] "over-patrolling cops giving out 1mph over speeding tickets because they have nothing better to do in a town with no crime and lots of cars" <hr></blockquote>
What would it be like with no cops and only Porsche owners on the road..... <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
[quote] How does 120mph from a standing start on the 7000ft elevation uphill on-ramp on Surrey Ridge sound? <hr></blockquote>

That sounds very impressive.... I would like to be at that place some day!

TurboTim

Danno,


I think you took what I wrote the wrong way. I am by no means trying to bash or otherwise knock the same Link product I am selling.

However, I do speak from lots of dyno experience over the years (and yes I have the dyno charts to back up my claims and would be more then willing to put these up for all to see). My point is that having built 944 turbos that make over 300, 320, 350, 370 and 400+ horsepower at the wheels, for years now, I know what it takes to get the job done. As a matter of fact I know what it takes to make over 1000 horsepower at the wheels because we have a twin turbo Supra sitting in our shop that makes 1024HP at the wheels (this car will be in an upcoming issue of Popular Mechanics so be sure to look for the first Speed Force Racing car to get a feature article, bummer its not one of our 944 turbos, though).

You are definitely right about attention to details.It is a must and I am about as meticulous as they come so I definitely pay attention to all the details. Now back to my point. Upgading the turbo system on any car to make the most power possible, requires tackling the project from all sides. You can not just put on big injectors, free up the induction system, toss a turbo on and expect to reach the cars maximum potential. It doesnt matter if you have perfect air/fuel ratios or not, it will not happen. You need to address other systems like the exhaust, wastegate, the head, possibly the cam, etc......Remember you need to get the air in as well as getting it out. So anyways this is the point I was trying to get across. If anyone plans on making 350+ horsepower at the wheels on a 944 turbo, it will have to be done by addressing the entire turbo system and not just parts and pieces of it. I am sure you will agree with this statement and I am sure you are taking the steps to address the whole system.

John Anderson

I have to lean towards the GURU MAP, I have installed it, and have seen the results...Danno did a great job at supplying me a setup that was PLUG AND PLAY, no problems at all. The MAF is outdated, and its time to move it to the back of the shelf.


The 350 mark is not that big of a deal. I know you have to have the proper tools, but lets not get carried away. I ran a MAF kit (a couple years agao, no MAP available), large turbo, and 52# injectors, ran 22psi boost on a motor that had over 200,000 on the OD. For a year, I was at 371 at the tires, never blew a head gasket, never had a failure on the motor. Point is, the motor can take over 350 at the tires without busting the bank.

So, I agree, you do need to know the motor to push it that far, but its not like your designing the space shuttle. Just use common sense, don''t get caught up in the BIGGER IS ALWAYS better, and just stay tuned to you're motor.

"see you at the track"

white 944 turbo

Tim, that is a very powerful supra. My friend is considering a supra. I tell him to get a 944 turbo and he says you can never make a 944 turbo run with a supra on the street even if the supra is mildly modified. I have heard about supras running 11's and lower in the quartermile but are these things streetable?

white 944 turbo

John, correct me if Im wrong but the map system isnt exactly new tech., its been around for many years and as for the maf whats your opinion on the new digital maf systems? Maybe it is too early but I have heard nothing but good things about them.