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Old 01-11-2002, 10:35 AM
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Which is best value and better for drivability ?
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Originally posted by M@951:
<STRONG>Which is best value and better for drivability ?</STRONG>
I've never used a TEC III, but I've heard many good things with it (automatically learn curves under closed loop was an option that I've heard of). I went with the SDS because of price so it's definately a winner in that dept. I can't say for drivability, but my car feels like stock until it hits the boost.
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Come on, your car feels like stock until boost ? Your 951 kills a Concours 944T !
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Originally posted by M@951:
<STRONG>Come on, your car feels like stock until boost ? Your 951 kills a Concours 944T !</STRONG>
Drivability wise =).
Old 01-11-2002, 11:19 PM
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The big difference between these two systems besides the price is the ability to programm the TEC with a laptop and some very nice windows based software.It is much easier to tune a map with 3-D software wih graphs, cells, etc.... then with a number punched into an LCD screen. We can tune TEC systems in under two hours on the dyno.The TEC also measures every 6 degrees of engine rotation. Nothing comes close to this, not even Motec. I am pretty biased when it comes to the TEC, though.I think the SDS system is a great entry level system. It lack a few of the features I want so that is why we dont sell it.

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Old 01-11-2002, 11:43 PM
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Tim,

Can You program in "anti-lagg" with the TEC?? (think'n of my buddy's rally project)
Old 01-12-2002, 04:41 AM
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Well, the SDS doesn't really have true "anti-lag". Its technique of late ignition and extra fuel sounds like it's going to be real tough on the exhaust valves.

The rally car anti-lag system uses a separate fuel-injector and spark-plug in the exhaust right before the turbo. This saves your exhaust valves, and gives you a normal idle.
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The rally car anti-lag system uses a separate fuel-injector and spark-plug in the exhaust right before the turbo. This saves your exhaust valves, and gives you a normal idle.[/QB]
Actually it doesn't even need to have a spark plug in the exhaust - the manifold and turbo can be hot enough to cause detonation when the fuel hits it, and/or the ignition can be retarded to fire when the exhaust valve is opened. But on a street car (or using street car parts) you are going to:
a) Kill your Turbo
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b) Kill your exhaust manifold.

Here is a good link that describes the system:
Toyota 'Big Bang' system

All sounds like big $$ setups to me. Would not expect anyone but a factory race team to make use of the system....
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I would never consider any "anti-lagg" in the 951, but my buddy has a great talon rally car!!



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