Jeremy Martin

HAHAHHAHAHAHHA. good one. civic + nos. HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> that reminds me of the time i ate this eclipse off the line, down the street, onto the highway, and down the twisties. i saw the kid a couple weeks later and found out it was juiced and still couldnt keep up with a 16 year old car... and yes, he was racing. unlike most ricers, he was nice enough to admit he was racing even though he didnt win.
i suppose there is some confort in having an engine thats so poor you can claim you werent going if you didnt win. i'm not interested in that though, sorry.

Mangopito

You guys are getting excited because you beat an eclipse, you should be competing with better cars. Eclipses are pieces of junk. Yeah with a turbo upgrade they are quick, especially the GSX which has awd. they can grip pretty good. But thats exactly what Im talking about, I dont want keep this car as a daily driver. I have a 13 second Vw for that. I dont know if you guys have seen the video, but an 1986 944 turbo did 10.8 for a quarter mile. That thing is amazing. Ive seen other videos of it, where he starts off a roll. the response is amazing. This car has way more potential than people say. Sure it is expensive to maintain, since you will be breaking parts. But it can be done. Remember people Im not going after drag racing. I like canyon racing. But I want something where I give some throttle, The cars grip gives out because it has so much power.

*eurospeed951*

hey you sound like you know the vdub wold well. Keep a look out in the next few PVW's for a blue a2 vr6, a yellow a3 with carbon hood, and a orange a4 1.8t. These are some of my best friends from the DC area. They all took first place and did the PVW shoot at the 1553designs show. You going to H20?

As for the 951, do what you enjoy. Yes this car is great for the twists, but if you like the stip go for it. Unlike some of the people here I enjoy my car in many different ways. I can't wait to see what it does on the strip AND the track. as well as see the heads it turns as a daily driver.
There are a great deal of option for power for these cars. If I had the money and could start from scratch this is what I would do:


-lighten car(lexan,fyberglass,striped)
-New LSD tranny with cooler
-Adjustable coilovers on all four
-3.2L engine( bored, JE Pistons, light rods, knife edged/light crank,balane shafts removed,SFR intak manafold, SFR level 5 turbo, 3" turbo back exhaust, Tec 3, 92# injectors, pipes, intercooler, ect...

that would be a fun car

enjoy the ride

Jeremy Martin

mag: it's hardly exciting, more like silly. the car was juiced and still couldnt keep up to a car with a poor quarter mile time... and dsm's are hardly pieces of ****. they are cheap and fast. unreliable, but cheap and fast. this was a new eclipse though, and the best ones to get are a first gen turbo; avoid the crankwalk the second gen's get... but if you want numbers you can put a dsm in the 11's on the cheap, 10's for alot of money. 3000 gt's quarter 12's cheap, 11's for alot of money, and the fastest in the world is around a 10.3. drag only supras are insainly expensive but you can milk 9's or even 8's out of them so it can be worth it... still, there's a short list of nice jap crap and most of the list is populated with gt's, 300zx's, supra's, with scattered dsm sightings. i'll stick with my porsche though, it's a real thoroughbred... oh yeah, one more thing. the gsx is hardly a good autocross car. just because it has awd doesnt mean much; the frame is very weak and poorly designed. the awd system isnt nearly advanced as it should be (static power to each tire), and the car's skid pad isnt what i would expect. if you want an awd monster get a 3000gt vr4, wrx, or an audi. you'll have to modify the suspension of any and all of the above, but it will be worth it... still, none of them will beat a ferrari in the twisties at 90mph.

rage2

[quote]Originally posted by Danno:
<strong>Finally, get a good attorney! Because you're going to have a bonefide 185-190mph car where tickets and arrests will be a regular event!!! </strong><hr></blockquote>

Danno, I did everything you said and can only hit 183mph in 5th gear at 7000rpm. What gives??

On a serious note, drag racing the 951 sucks. Broken trannies (1), worn out lsd's (1), broken clutches (3), and my arch nemesis : CV joints (7+). My car can easily hit the 12's if I buy a set of drag slicks, and sacrafice a set of CV joints and a tranny. My 13.2 run was done with a soft launch (about a second of turbo lag), granny shifts all the way to the end.

Edman951

[quote] I dont know if you guys have seen the video, but an 1986 944 turbo did 10.8 for a quarter mile. That thing is amazing. Ive seen other videos of it, where he starts off a roll. the response is amazing. <hr></blockquote>
Where did you see this video, i'd like to see it... Do you have a link or something.

Mangopito

No its on a cd rom I got from a friend in Europe. But I have this other video I can send you of another 944T running a highly modded Mitsubishi Vr4 Galant. THey both look like they can do 11s no problem. This is like one of the craziest videos I have ever seen.

Edman951

If you can send me the other video that would be cool also,i always like to see some crazy video's.. Thanks edman951@yahoo.ca

P.s. i'm also an ex-vdub with my mk3 vr6 road racer. it was fun but now.
We are playing with the big boys and were it get's really expensive to go fast.I've had my 951 for 4 mounth's now and i love it.But it will cost me a few G's to get my reliable 325rwhp that i want.
This forum has alot of good guys ready to help out with good info and you can take that info to the bank because this board is not like all the other's on the net. The peoples on this board know what they are talking about and when they don't,most of them tell you their not sure.
So point being,Use the info on this site well so you won't get burned in the futur.

<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

TKT2RDE

Yeah, how about a link to the video. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

I scanned and uploaded an article out of Turbo Magazine about Porsche drag racer Eddie Bello for inspiration.

If you are not familiar with Eddie Bello... he put together a 960HP 911 that ran a 9.17 @ 161mph with stock transmission, clutch specialties clutch, and RSR flywheel... on Toyo STREET TIRES!

Too bad is isn't possible (yet) for us to get hold of some of those 911 transmission genes and do a little gene therapy on our 951's!

Unfortunately, I read somewhere that Eddie Bello is now serving time for involvement in a chop shop ring. Perhaps this is an indication to the limitations involved in affording the parts for this kind of machine.

Good Luck and keep us posted!

<a href="http://www.positiveimagestudio.com/download/PORSCHE960hp.pdf" target="_blank">PORSCHE960hp.pdf</a>

DanD

Oooooh. I want to see the video of a 944 running 11s. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
If you send it to me I'll post it on my rennlist site.
Thanks,
DanD
dan10101@pacbell.net

DanD

[quote]Originally posted by TKT2RDE:
[QB]
I scanned and uploaded an article out of Turbo Magazine about Porsche drag racer Eddie Bello for inspiration.
<hr></blockquote>

Great article. I think I read that Eddie is alive and well and building race cars. The charge didn't stick or something like that. Now if someone can find the one with the 9sec 944 Turbo on the cover of Turbo Mag. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />

TKT2RDE

Still trying to track down Eddie Bello on the web. Here are a few links I found so far, including a European Car text article... and of course the News Wire of his legal troubles.

<a href="http://www.a2prosports.com/root/athlete/athlete.php?athlete_id=3" target="_blank">A2Pro Sports Profile</a>
<a href="http://www.haltech.com.au/Who_s_Hot_/Eddie_Bello/eddie_bello.html" target="_blank">Haltech Website</a>
<a href="http://findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0BUX/4_31/60136603/p1/article.jhtml" target="_blank">European Car Article</a>
<a href="http://www.cbsnewyork.com/topstories/StoryFolder/story_085181937_html/?pp=1" target="_blank">News Article</a>

Olli Snellman

Ok, it,s not a "big deal" to have a street leagal 4 cylinder car to run under 10 seconds.There are lots of these kind of cars over here.Here's figures of one of them:
BMW 2002 with turboed M3 (E30) four banger:
850hp
0-100km/h 1.7s
0-200km/h 5.70s
1/4 miles 8.92s/243km/h
This car is a street legal.

Only negative thing with that kind of cars are constant loss of transmissions,CV joints, clutches etc.Of course its cheaper to buy these parts for Opel,Toyota, etc.
BTW this BMW uses highly modified GM Powerglide trans and good old Ford 9" rear end...
Car can be seen on:
<a href="http://www.hestec.fi" target="_blank">http://www.hestec.fi</a>
There's also other interesting stuff.
BTW 2 I have seen Hestec "product" installed to 951 & 911

Olli
'88 951

Stuttgart951

"Ok, thats all I wanted to know, Im open to new things. Breakin parts is ok. And yes To get a good launch You obviously have to slip the clutch and burn that piece of chit."

Guys, if youre slipping the clutch to launch, youre causing unnecessary wear. You need to keep the boost up at launch, rev the engine between 3500 and 4500 - DROP, dont slip, DROP the clutch at about 3600 (depending on tires) and floor it at the same time - car responds amazingly well... wish I had videos of me doing this...

rage2

[quote]Originally posted by Stuttgart951:
<strong>Guys, if youre slipping the clutch to launch, youre causing unnecessary wear. You need to keep the boost up at launch, rev the engine between 3500 and 4500 - DROP, dont slip, DROP the clutch at about 3600 (depending on tires) and floor it at the same time - car responds amazingly well... wish I had videos of me doing this...</strong><hr></blockquote>

That doesn't work for high horsepower cars, especially when the powerband is tiny (4000-6000rpm). Works well for stock turbo'd 951's though, I used to be able to pull off sub 5 second 0-60 runs dumping the clutch and powershifting.