CRAP! Busted alllen head bolt from head to block. What is the best way to get it out?
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Well, now that I see the pics... damn.. if it makes you feel any better I just re-installed the head on my NA, want to guess the ONLY spot weeping any coolant... exact same frigging bolt... I am considering the drill/helicoil/new bolt route as well, although there isn't much in the way of space in the head there for a larger bolt head!
Call me tomorrow, an we can kick around some ideas!
OH, and for cleaning everything up, I used Permatex gasket removal gell and a scuffing pad.. add elbow grease and the block / head / cam tower will SHINE!
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I had my head rebuilt, but I believe you already have a replacement head right? (not to mention it appears your #1 exhaust isn't fully closed!)
Call me tomorrow, an we can kick around some ideas!
OH, and for cleaning everything up, I used Permatex gasket removal gell and a scuffing pad.. add elbow grease and the block / head / cam tower will SHINE!
I had my head rebuilt, but I believe you already have a replacement head right? (not to mention it appears your #1 exhaust isn't fully closed!)
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No need for a bigger bolt head. You drill it bigger for the helicoil, but then the helicoil insert brings it back down to a perfect M8 like the original...
Well, now that I see the pics... damn.. if it makes you feel any better I just re-installed the head on my NA, want to guess the ONLY spot weeping any coolant... exact same frigging bolt... I am considering the drill/helicoil/new bolt route as well, although there isn't much in the way of space in the head there for a larger bolt head!
Call me tomorrow, an we can kick around some ideas!
OH, and for cleaning everything up, I used Permatex gasket removal gell and a scuffing pad.. add elbow grease and the block / head / cam tower will SHINE!
![](http://reutterwerk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13718&stc=1&d=1297400781)
![](http://reutterwerk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13706&stc=1&d=1297360744)
I had my head rebuilt, but I believe you already have a replacement head right? (not to mention it appears your #1 exhaust isn't fully closed!)
Call me tomorrow, an we can kick around some ideas!
OH, and for cleaning everything up, I used Permatex gasket removal gell and a scuffing pad.. add elbow grease and the block / head / cam tower will SHINE!
I had my head rebuilt, but I believe you already have a replacement head right? (not to mention it appears your #1 exhaust isn't fully closed!)
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Hope all is well
Sorry about your busted bolt .. Tom helped me, when I was dumb enough to try to remove a water pump stud, out of the block, that in retrospect, was perfectly fine
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Luckily, I was able to drill and tap to the orig size, but I did use those Heilcoils on the timing belt cover threads that are in the block. The freakin dealer drilled them out, and never replaced the thread. They worked like a charm !!
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Good luck bud
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This one is a pretty common one.. stupid waterjacket design.
Anyhow as mentioned it looks like you should be able to get a pair of vice-grips on it. I heated it up as much as i could using a propane torch and it came right now. The best advice i can offer is to make sure you use a GOOD pair of vicegrips with a good set of teeth on the jaws.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/TechnoDuck/My%201988%20Porsche%20944%20Turbo/Head%20Gasket%20Job/IMG_5994.jpg)
Anyhow as mentioned it looks like you should be able to get a pair of vice-grips on it. I heated it up as much as i could using a propane torch and it came right now. The best advice i can offer is to make sure you use a GOOD pair of vicegrips with a good set of teeth on the jaws.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/TechnoDuck/My%201988%20Porsche%20944%20Turbo/Head%20Gasket%20Job/IMG_5994.jpg)
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Well, now that I see the pics... damn.. if it makes you feel any better I just re-installed the head on my NA, want to guess the ONLY spot weeping any coolant... exact same frigging bolt... I am considering the drill/helicoil/new bolt route as well, although there isn't much in the way of space in the head there for a larger bolt head!
Call me tomorrow, an we can kick around some ideas!
OH, and for cleaning everything up, I used Permatex gasket removal gell and a scuffing pad.. add elbow grease and the block / head / cam tower will SHINE!
![](http://reutterwerk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13718&stc=1&d=1297400781)
![](http://reutterwerk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13706&stc=1&d=1297360744)
I had my head rebuilt, but I believe you already have a replacement head right? (not to mention it appears your #1 exhaust isn't fully closed!)
Call me tomorrow, an we can kick around some ideas!
OH, and for cleaning everything up, I used Permatex gasket removal gell and a scuffing pad.. add elbow grease and the block / head / cam tower will SHINE!
I had my head rebuilt, but I believe you already have a replacement head right? (not to mention it appears your #1 exhaust isn't fully closed!)
Yep, the head is brand new with great machine work, o-ringed and larger(2.7ltr) intake valves. I'll take your advice on the cleaning of the rest. I have to pull the front crank seal as well. There's a good amount of leakage there.
Obviously I'm doing the wp/gasket/belts and rollers and any other front seals that need replacing. I need a seal driver though. What do you use to get them squarely into place?
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It looks like you've got enough protruding - I'd try Vise-Grips personally. Save drilling and stuff for a last resort, as there's always a good risk with that of drilling in crooked and screwing up the threads in the block there.
Soak it for a bit (overnight) in PB Blaster to try to break it down and loosen it up a bit.
Soak it for a bit (overnight) in PB Blaster to try to break it down and loosen it up a bit.
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Hey Elliott
Hope all is well
Sorry about your busted bolt .. Tom helped me, when I was dumb enough to try to remove a water pump stud, out of the block, that in retrospect, was perfectly fine
Luckily, I was able to drill and tap to the orig size, but I did use those Heilcoils on the timing belt cover threads that are in the block. The freakin dealer drilled them out, and never replaced the thread. They worked like a charm !!![thumbsup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigok.gif)
Good luck bud
Regards
Ed
Hope all is well
Sorry about your busted bolt .. Tom helped me, when I was dumb enough to try to remove a water pump stud, out of the block, that in retrospect, was perfectly fine
![banghead](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/banghead.gif)
Luckily, I was able to drill and tap to the orig size, but I did use those Heilcoils on the timing belt cover threads that are in the block. The freakin dealer drilled them out, and never replaced the thread. They worked like a charm !!
![thumbsup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigok.gif)
Good luck bud
Regards
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I may go without belt covers this time. I have the belly pans and I'd prefer to "F.O.D. walk" the belts, rather than find out too late.
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They are missing in PET. See here for details though:
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...lt-on-pet.html
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This one is a pretty common one.. stupid waterjacket design.
Anyhow as mentioned it looks like you should be able to get a pair of vice-grips on it. I heated it up as much as i could using a propane torch and it came right now. The best advice i can offer is to make sure you use a GOOD pair of vicegrips with a good set of teeth on the jaws.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/TechnoDuck/My%201988%20Porsche%20944%20Turbo/Head%20Gasket%20Job/IMG_5994.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/TechnoDuck/My%201988%20Porsche%20944%20Turbo/Head%20Gasket%20Job/IMG_5996.jpg)
Anyhow as mentioned it looks like you should be able to get a pair of vice-grips on it. I heated it up as much as i could using a propane torch and it came right now. The best advice i can offer is to make sure you use a GOOD pair of vicegrips with a good set of teeth on the jaws.
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/TechnoDuck/My%201988%20Porsche%20944%20Turbo/Head%20Gasket%20Job/IMG_5994.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/TechnoDuck/My%201988%20Porsche%20944%20Turbo/Head%20Gasket%20Job/IMG_5996.jpg)
I need to find a cheap propane torch. Anyone got a good deal on one from some big chain store?
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#1 has a LOT of carbon crap on it. I have some serious(1/8 inch thick) carbon build up on #4 piston top. #'s 2 and 3 have some light carbon. What's the best way to remove that crap without getting it inside the block?
Yep, the head is brand new with great machine work, o-ringed and larger(2.7ltr) intake valves. I'll take your advice on the cleaning of the rest. I have to pull the front crank seal as well. There's a good amount of leakage there.
Obviously I'm doing the wp/gasket/belts and rollers and any other front seals that need replacing. I need a seal driver though. What do you use to get them squarely into place?
Yep, the head is brand new with great machine work, o-ringed and larger(2.7ltr) intake valves. I'll take your advice on the cleaning of the rest. I have to pull the front crank seal as well. There's a good amount of leakage there.
Obviously I'm doing the wp/gasket/belts and rollers and any other front seals that need replacing. I need a seal driver though. What do you use to get them squarely into place?
I used oversize metric deep sockets as seal drivers. Worked fine.
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