Bob Ward

sweet
How much HP is it rated for or how much better cooling vs stock?

Chris White

The radiator is rated for one million horsepower. (as long as its immersed in a 35 degree water bath with a 50gal/minute coolant pump).

Seriously – you can’t really ‘rate’ a radiator because it depends on many other details of the cooling system, the air flow, the coolant flow rate, the heat transfer from the block to the coolant and so on. All that being said the radiator will not have any problem keeping a 600hp engine at the correct temp out on the track. It can probably support quite a bit more HP but I haven’t tested that limit!

John Milne

Chris,

I sent you an email about participating in the group buy.

Korenwolf

Chris, out of interest, I assume there is no engine coolant flowing through the oil cooler part of the core, like an oil/water heat exchanger would have - i.e. the actual benefits are the extra surface area and ducted air from the fans...

I guess you can ship to the UK no problems... ?

Chris White

Yes, it is an air to oil cooler, there is a very small amount of heat transfer from the bottom of the coolant area to the top of the oil cooler but it is pretty small.
I can ship to England, I have sent several to Sweden and Finland before. They are packaged quite nicely. Info on the pricing will be posted today!

barks944

Another potential UK customer registering interest. I would be interested in a bolt on kit with all the fittings etc.

Chris White

OK, It took a while to get it all ironed out – in the end it came out as the same deal as last time! The prices have gone up since last year (the ebay listing noted earlier is the ‘old’ design that he wants to get rid of – then the price goes up!).
The price is $1k for the new design radiator/oil cooler, once we get to 6 committed I can drop it to $950. My deal also include new upper radiator mounts (I don’t want anybody to trash their new radiators!) and the beaded aluminum tube that you will need to splice the lower radiator hose to the shorter length.

I also have the complete oil line for $250 in either black fabric or regular stainless braided lines. This includes the adapters for the oil lines to block connection.
If you want a non oil cooler version - $600 and then $550 once we get the whole group over 6 buyers.

Shipping (to the US) is usually right around $35.

Direct email – chris@944enhancement.com

KSira

How hard is it to replace the stock hoses without taking out the engine? It looks very tight but is it possible if the pump is removed?

Darwantae951

I installed this radiator, and replaced the hoses, with the engine in the car. It's a tad tight, but not a huge deal or burden.

Chris White

If you are talking about the oil lines it can be done in the car. Removing the oil filter will make it easier.

Darwantae951

Um...aren't you out doing something?

Chris White

It's lunch break at the Ski area and I'm always jacked in somehow!

Buckaroo Banzi

Chris,
What's the difference between the old and new design?
How many confirmed buyers do you have besides me?
Would you consider the Wizard as good or better than the Griffin?

-BB

Chris White

The new design has some small changes – the main change is the lower coolant attachment point. It has been ‘bumped out’ to the side to allow for the stock fan shroud to work. Many of the people that bought the original run of cooler radiators were using aftermarket fans so it was not an issue, but since one customer wanted to use the stock fans without major surgery we worked out a fix. Pics were posted a page or so ago.

I have enough buyers to set up the first level discount. I am actually one short but I will go ahead and I can keep that one for stock if nobody else wants it.

I bought one of the first Griffin radiators way back when – it was well made. The second run got very bad reviews for fitment and weld quality. The Wizard radiator has a thicker core and the end tanks are laser cut. The fabrication quality is very nice and the fitment has been tweaked quite a bit. So I do consider the Wizard radiator better (otherwise I wouldn’t bother with it!)

Chris White

Ok – the group buy is going ahead – for all those that expressed interested please email me for an update – I also need to know the following info (email to chris@944enhancement.com) –
Oil cooler – yes/no
Oil lines – none / DIY kit (all parts) / finished lines.
Oil lines – black fabric covered or Stainless (the fittings are all black)
Motor mounts – stock or semisolid
Cooling fans – stock or aftermarket

Current fabrication time is four weeks, there were only two cores in stock and those have been spoken for.
$950 for oil cooler version, $550 for the non oil cooler version and $250 for oil cooler hoses and adapters. $35 will cover shipping to anywhere in the US

I can do paypal, credit card or check.
Thanks!