WANTED: Turbo S Torsion Bars (25.5mm)
#1
WANTED: Turbo S Torsion Bars (25.5mm)
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Looking for 25.5mm torsion bars (preferably) These are from a Turbo S.
Show me what you have though in other sizes though too.
Looking for 25.5mm torsion bars (preferably) These are from a Turbo S.
Show me what you have though in other sizes though too.
Last edited by ritzblitz; 12-24-2009 at 10:10 AM.
#3
hey ritz - for as big of a job as Tbars are you may seriously consider a heavier bar. they are not expensive, and matched with the m030 struts (converted to accept std springs) you can get into a much better setup pretty cheap assuming you have the struts already.
Even the S is so softly sprung..... a total waste of time changing over a non s, to the s spring rates. I would not go anything under a 325#front and 29mm Tbar for even a street car myself. Just my 02
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Even the S is so softly sprung..... a total waste of time changing over a non s, to the s spring rates. I would not go anything under a 325#front and 29mm Tbar for even a street car myself. Just my 02
Happy Holiday!
#4
Hrmm thanks for the advice dude. The car is street/autox/track. I have no money, I figured the Turbo S bars would be a good, cost effective upgrade.
But I'm open to offers on bigger bars.
Someone linked these over on Pelican. Any experiences with them? http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.a...Search1=Search
But I'm open to offers on bigger bars.
Someone linked these over on Pelican. Any experiences with them? http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.a...Search1=Search
#5
Used Tbars are not a good investment, like all spring devices, the spring strength decreases over 20 years. Save up and get some sway-a-way bars, It is a lot of work replacing Tbars and it takes many tries to get the correct ride height. You do not want replace them more then once. You might find someone who has gone to coil overs and has a set of newer Tbars they could sell.
If you go to 28-29 Tbars, you will need to get bigger springs up front. You can find people selling front stock aftermarket springs all the time.
If you go to 28-29 Tbars, you will need to get bigger springs up front. You can find people selling front stock aftermarket springs all the time.
Last edited by Bri Bro; 12-24-2009 at 01:43 PM.
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Hrmm thanks for the advice dude. The car is street/autox/track. I have no money, I figured the Turbo S bars would be a good, cost effective upgrade.
But I'm open to offers on bigger bars.
Someone linked these over on Pelican. Any experiences with them? http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.a...Search1=Search
But I'm open to offers on bigger bars.
Someone linked these over on Pelican. Any experiences with them? http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.a...Search1=Search
I purchased mine from Paragon - $295 I recall - whatever size you want
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#8
Agreed with these other guys. I have 28's on mine and i feel like that's the way the car should have come from the factory (they are still plenty compliant!).
If you're going to do torsion bars, you might seriously look into the elephant racing poly-bronze bushings. The rubber ones are usually pretty deformed after 20-some years, and the cheaper delrin (or whatever they are) bushings supposedly start to squeak and bind pretty quickly after installation. Unfortunately i found that out AFTER i had bought my torsion bars, so that added another $300 to the install :/ If i had to do it all over again i'd probably just buy a rear coil-over conversion and save yourself the hassle of indexing the torsion bars (although i got lucky with mine and nailed it the first time )
If you're going to do torsion bars, you might seriously look into the elephant racing poly-bronze bushings. The rubber ones are usually pretty deformed after 20-some years, and the cheaper delrin (or whatever they are) bushings supposedly start to squeak and bind pretty quickly after installation. Unfortunately i found that out AFTER i had bought my torsion bars, so that added another $300 to the install :/ If i had to do it all over again i'd probably just buy a rear coil-over conversion and save yourself the hassle of indexing the torsion bars (although i got lucky with mine and nailed it the first time )
#9
Agreed with these other guys. I have 28's on mine and i feel like that's the way the car should have come from the factory (they are still plenty compliant!).
If you're going to do torsion bars, you might seriously look into the elephant racing poly-bronze bushings. The rubber ones are usually pretty deformed after 20-some years, and the cheaper delrin (or whatever they are) bushings supposedly start to squeak and bind pretty quickly after installation. Unfortunately i found that out AFTER i had bought my torsion bars, so that added another $300 to the install :/ If i had to do it all over again i'd probably just buy a rear coil-over conversion and save yourself the hassle of indexing the torsion bars (although i got lucky with mine and nailed it the first time )
If you're going to do torsion bars, you might seriously look into the elephant racing poly-bronze bushings. The rubber ones are usually pretty deformed after 20-some years, and the cheaper delrin (or whatever they are) bushings supposedly start to squeak and bind pretty quickly after installation. Unfortunately i found that out AFTER i had bought my torsion bars, so that added another $300 to the install :/ If i had to do it all over again i'd probably just buy a rear coil-over conversion and save yourself the hassle of indexing the torsion bars (although i got lucky with mine and nailed it the first time )
weltmeistr makes those bushings... they are a hard polly bushing not rubber and are $60 as I recall. I wanted but could not justify the elephant racing ones at 5X the price. There is a specific lube to use on the hard bushings - I have had no squeak issues myself.
#11
Hmm I'm going to have to do some thinking about this. I'm currently running 200# weltmeister front springs. Installing the turbo s tbars in back should dial out some understeer and balance the car pretty well.
I think for the price, I'm going to put the turbo s tbars in because one thing I want to address is the ride height. After all, I can always run a helper setup in back if I get a heavier front spring setup. But for now, I think the car will be pretty well suited with #200 front springs and 25.5mm rear torsion bars. Or am I wrong?
I'll also be purchasing 968 M030 sway bars in the near future, so that will offer a little more adjustability.
I think for the price, I'm going to put the turbo s tbars in because one thing I want to address is the ride height. After all, I can always run a helper setup in back if I get a heavier front spring setup. But for now, I think the car will be pretty well suited with #200 front springs and 25.5mm rear torsion bars. Or am I wrong?
I'll also be purchasing 968 M030 sway bars in the near future, so that will offer a little more adjustability.