Motons installed - some notes
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Motons installed - some notes
Just finished the installation of Moton Clubsports and a full Racer's Edge bushing kit on my 86 944 turbo. This is now a track-only car and previously was shod with a nice set of non-adjustable Ledas.
Using the Elephant Racing writeup on the rear torsion bar removal, I was able to mount all the rear stuff without completely dropping the carrier nor removal of the trailing arms. Wanted to add some tips/notes:
1.using a propane torch the spring plate bushings came out pretty easy, but it takes alot of work to clean all of the rubber crud off. Even a brass wire wheel would not get it all. I had to go to a steel wire wheel brush and even a steel file.
2. when reinstalling the spring plates I tried to attach the trailing arms and wedge the torsion tube carrier bushings into place at the same time. This made it impossible to line up the 4 bolts on the spring plate to the torque tube - I had to loosen up every thing else first to make it much easier.
3. it is difficult to get the torsion tube assembly into place with the solid upper mounts. I found it easier to keep the upper mount loose otherwise the assembly would not key into place - then tighten the mount after everything was lifted into place.
4. the front control arms on early cars will have clearance issues between the Moton strut housing - specifically the swivel for the line to the remote reservoir - and the drop links for the sway bars. I had to thread my drop link more, then cut about 1/2" off the top and use only the rubber bushing under the control arm and not on the top.
I plan to add pics soon to make the above make some sense.
Using the Elephant Racing writeup on the rear torsion bar removal, I was able to mount all the rear stuff without completely dropping the carrier nor removal of the trailing arms. Wanted to add some tips/notes:
1.using a propane torch the spring plate bushings came out pretty easy, but it takes alot of work to clean all of the rubber crud off. Even a brass wire wheel would not get it all. I had to go to a steel wire wheel brush and even a steel file.
2. when reinstalling the spring plates I tried to attach the trailing arms and wedge the torsion tube carrier bushings into place at the same time. This made it impossible to line up the 4 bolts on the spring plate to the torque tube - I had to loosen up every thing else first to make it much easier.
3. it is difficult to get the torsion tube assembly into place with the solid upper mounts. I found it easier to keep the upper mount loose otherwise the assembly would not key into place - then tighten the mount after everything was lifted into place.
4. the front control arms on early cars will have clearance issues between the Moton strut housing - specifically the swivel for the line to the remote reservoir - and the drop links for the sway bars. I had to thread my drop link more, then cut about 1/2" off the top and use only the rubber bushing under the control arm and not on the top.
I plan to add pics soon to make the above make some sense.
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I am glad that the Elephant Racing write up actually work. I am about to tackle the rear end on my 944 NA. I will be removing the t-bars and upgrading the bushings as well.
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Hey....are the Ledas for sale and what rates were they valved for....?
I'm coming to the 'Two Step', leaving Thursday.
T
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disaster,
I put the front reservoirs on the front of the wheel wells just behind the headlights (mine are gone). Makes for easy access to the front canisters. The rears I cut holes in the rear seats tubs and mounted the canisters inside. As a note, I accidentally managed to cut the rear holes only partially and thus created a "lid" that I could open to push the canisters thru and then close the lids. I then just used aluminum HVAC tape to cover/seal the holes.
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the Ledas were sold and setup by Karl at Racers Edge. The front is valved to 400# spring rate and the rear valved to an effective 400# spring rate (torsion bar + helper spring). They are oil bathed and non-adjustable in compression and rebound.
Bruce,
I will bring it by soon. It is getting an alignment now.
I put the front reservoirs on the front of the wheel wells just behind the headlights (mine are gone). Makes for easy access to the front canisters. The rears I cut holes in the rear seats tubs and mounted the canisters inside. As a note, I accidentally managed to cut the rear holes only partially and thus created a "lid" that I could open to push the canisters thru and then close the lids. I then just used aluminum HVAC tape to cover/seal the holes.
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the Ledas were sold and setup by Karl at Racers Edge. The front is valved to 400# spring rate and the rear valved to an effective 400# spring rate (torsion bar + helper spring). They are oil bathed and non-adjustable in compression and rebound.
Bruce,
I will bring it by soon. It is getting an alignment now.
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Will do....we have traded a few emails about diffusers before.
Is your car up and running...?
Listen, being y'all two are local and I haven't got a response yet at the Race/DE forum, do either one of you know if it's too late to order a tire and have it delivered to the track by the local supplier for the event...?
I'm, desperate and need an answer.
We are good for dry but last I had checked the thread on the Two Step, it looked like rain was overestimated, now it looks more definite....?
We are bringing two 944NAs and for wets I have a relatively new set of 888s and for the second car, a set of sticker ra1s but 1 was damaged on the sidewall by an unrolled rear fender.
Do either of you have the contact # for the supplier for the event...?
T
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I'm asking you if the non-adjustable Ledas that you took off are for sale....
As stated, I'm coming to the event and can pick them up.
T
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Yeah....I almost jumped on a set of these setup by Karl for specific rates but I went with something else at the time because I got a killer deal on some 3012 rears.
I'm asking you if the non-adjustable Ledas that you took off are for sale....
As stated, I'm coming to the event and can pick them up.
T
I'm asking you if the non-adjustable Ledas that you took off are for sale....
As stated, I'm coming to the event and can pick them up.
T
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Email me at 944t at plaqcom dot net with a price if you get a chance.
And again, if either of you have the tire supplier phone #, please email or pm me.
I'm going to be in a bind without rain tires for both cars.
T