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Old 12-30-2008, 10:51 PM
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Seattle 951 would love to see some pictures of your interior and engine compartment? What does your
vin # indicate, and most important what are the option codes on your white sticker in the warranty & maintanence manual or is there one stuck to the body right next to the drivers taillight? What exactly does the letter or document from Porsche state? Does your 951 have undercoating beneath the paint on the lower part of the car and underneath?
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Old 12-31-2008, 12:53 AM
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This is a cool thread. I just checked mine in hopes of a low number - sharing in the historical significance. Unfortunately it is 151736. Just a plain old 86 turbo I guess. I am in Lenoir if I can be of any help though.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:23 AM
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I have an ealry turbo, it has early door handles no 3rd brake lite, and a very limited amount of options. I have a few 86 turbo's and this car stands out as being a little more pepperer then the rest (before modded) my vin on my car that has been told to me by a number of people is a "85 turbo" ends in ...150099.

There is also another area that show it to be an early car the vin on the engine head doesn't have the "T" on it and the "951-xxx-xxx-xx" is embossed instead of raised and these cars tend to have a lil higher compression the the production run turbos

Also on my option list a have a few weird options like there is one the dealer specifically told me it was a "pilot production run" there was another for "special body construction in doors and rear"


I also read some where that all 86 turbo where made in the performance place where the later turbo S of 88 was made in order to introduce into racing.So from what I understand is that the best ones to get to mod is the 86 and the 88 S. Don't know the true really behind that but my 0.02cents


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Old 12-31-2008, 02:11 AM
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That sounds like a pretty low # 99 what is the rest of the vin? Because some cars have different letters to stand them out from the regular production stuff. Also what exactly are the option codes you are relating too any chance of finding those out?
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Yeah I will have to go down in my shop in the morning and I will get the option list up for you. It's a really clean car low miles 72000! OH yeah and it don't have leather either!


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Old 12-31-2008, 02:29 AM
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Boost feen the vin is as follows .....WPOAA0957GN150099. If you find out anything interesting please tell.



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I have PLENTY of 86 turbos around here and that's the only one with "957" instead of "953" in the vin.


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Old 12-31-2008, 08:48 AM
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I will try and take some pictures and post some more details
Spidey , come by and check it out
BTW the car has 56000 miles on it
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Originally Posted by boost feen View Post
Seattle 951 would love to see some pictures of your interior and engine compartment? What does your
vin # indicate, and most important what are the option codes on your white sticker in the warranty & maintanence manual or is there one stuck to the body right next to the drivers taillight? What exactly does the letter or document from Porsche state? Does your 951 have undercoating beneath the paint on the lower part of the car and underneath?
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My 951 as it is today bears little resemblense to the way it shipped from the factory. The engine compartment looks like a Lindsey Racing advertisement and has most of the products from their catelog. The interior was added by one of its previous owners (along with the power windows). Apparently, the car spent many years as a track car with no interior. A good portion of the body has been replaced with carbon fiber and the car repainted. The car was dissassembed and stripped to bare metal for the paint job. (I learned a lot about the interior installation while the shop was painting the car.) When I had the car cornerbalanced it weighed in at just over 2700 lbs with driver. I can get some pictures but they will more reflect the modifications rather than how the car shipped from the factory.

In regards to the document, a previous owner had written Porsche a letter with a copy of the VIN number and asked for certification that the car was an escort. Porsche verified that his car was part of the series. I recieved the letter in a vanilla envelope with about 2 inches worth of service records at the time of purchase.

Because of the modifications (lower 2 inches, rides like a truck), and enough power to quickly get into trouble on slick roads, the car is only driven on dry roads in the summer for outings and events. It is under a car cover in my garage blocked by Xmas decoration boxes (none touching the car). If you are still interested, I can pull the option codes in a week after the garage is put back in order following the holidays.

Apparently, the escort series cars were shipped with a lightweight magnesium intake manifold that is is worth big money today. If true, I wish I still had the one that came with the car. (I have a LR manifold on it now)
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:26 PM
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This is a really cool thread !!!!
some great info
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:44 PM
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Sounds like you might have a real '86 Escort car, those cars were delivered with pretty much NO options and had the LSD, KONI threaded body shocks in front with the rears being a KONI with fixed barrel spring just like the 968 M030 unit, 16" x 8" x9" fuchs which the rears are a one of a kind offset that are super rare unlike the 15MM 930 16" x 9", fixed Recaro race seat with standard cloth passenger seat, NO undercoating, lightweight carpet, BLACK PLASTIC MIRRORS WITH NO ELECTRICS! Picture is of the rear rim and spare shock from '86 cup car which might be a touch different then the few '86 951's that came here to the US because as stated earlier those were probably just Club Sport package cars with 0 options and then turned into race cars once imported due to Federal Regulations no doubt!

It would be very interesting to see what your option codes are and what transaxle code you have!

Thank you, and happy new year everybody!
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Here are some pictures
Notice on the Emisions decal ( conforms to 1984 standards )
On the firewall stamping the x'ed out # is EN150012 ( 1984 model )
The odd serial # stamping on the Windshield Post ( small tag attached )
Old style Driprail moulding ( pre '85.5 )
Build date decal says 7/85 and it is on the passenger side beside the batterie

I have owned the car since 1990
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You guys this website has lots of info and pics of most of the 944 turbo Cup cars the factory built, however as always there are lots of mysteries and it would take 100's of the RIGHT people locked into a room with a really big chalkboard to try to find and track down every single bit of pertinent information regarding the 951 Escort, Rothmans, South African, Australian, and Club Sport purpose built cars!

http://www.asarus.com/cup/recensement.shtml
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The Car has original paint ( except a few spots )
What is something like this worth ?
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The car does have standard 951 mirrors but had been repainted before I took ownership (another reason we stripped to bare metal for current paint job). The mirrors may have been added by the previous owner. I also wanted to put 968 mirrors on but could not find a good set in time.

The car was sold to me with aftermarket BBS wheels. I had the current wheels made with custom offsets to match the larger fender flaring and to accomidate 315s. I took measurements and the vendor sent prototypes that we worked with to get the offset correct. During the process the vendor asked if I was sure the car was an 86 since the measurements were not what he expected.

The car did have 5-speed LSD, but I also have a reciept that the prevous owner had purchased a rebuilt transmission from an 89 turbo S. The car now has a 6-speed LSD from a 968.

The suspension had already been replaced by the previouis owner. I changed it again to a Bilstein Escort cup with the M30 setup.

About 3 months ago I talked to Jon Mileadge about the car. He thought he may have known the previous owner and was familiar with the car. Jon sold me new valve springs, valve retainers and cam for the car. He worked with me on some specific goals I had for spool up and optimizing the Garrett GT30R turbo my mechanic installed. I have had too much on my plate lately and the equipment is sitting in my garage in a box along with a host of other upgraded parts. I will probably get this stuff installed in the Spring.

Since I don't have the owners manual I will need to look at the option codes in the car. Once the holidays are over, I will take a look at the sticker and report back.

Thanks for the interest.
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