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Old 07-05-2008, 09:08 AM
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Evo's and Sti's are fast until 80-90mph, once out of third gear, their 57" height severely works against them...
Old 07-05-2008, 09:26 AM
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cheap build quality...horrible looks...and the majority of the drivers are still hitting puberty = skip...I am sure they are faster than 951s but I think a modded 951 could prolly keep up in a straight line and blow them away in the twisties.

and no brake checks in the 951...but if I am in my beater (98 5.9 jeep grand cherokee) is might be a different story.
Old 07-05-2008, 03:40 PM
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Agreed, however regular WRX's aren't all that fast at all. It seems that all the WRX drivers around these parts think they are the late Colin McRae
Old 07-05-2008, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bluto951
cheap build quality...horrible looks...and the majority of the drivers are still hitting puberty = skip...I am sure they are faster than 951s but I think a modded 951 could prolly keep up in a straight line and blow them away in the twisties.

and no brake checks in the 951...but if I am in my beater (98 5.9 jeep grand cherokee) is might be a different story.
Well the evo was pretty much marketed for them after all, not a very respectable looking car..
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Originally Posted by CameronKame
Well the evo was pretty much marketed for them after all, not a very respectable looking car..
I like the new one. Pretty catchy.
Old 07-05-2008, 06:15 PM
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trying to understand this (and other cars) objectively: how can a car with 290 advertised hp weighing 3400lb be faster than a mod'd 951 with let's say at least 280 to 300'ish hp and weight in at 3000lb? plus the awd must have tremendous drivetrain loss. furthermore can awd with electronic yaw control overcome the design of tall and narrow vs a very low and wide 951? like i said, i can't understand it by the numbers, but the evo and sti 's are fast. also how does a motor outlast a warranty running 20+ psi? do they weld the head to the block?
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Originally Posted by jf951
trying to understand this (and other cars) objectively: how can a car with 290 advertised hp weighing 3400lb be faster than a mod'd 951 with let's say at least 280 to 300'ish hp and weight in at 3000lb? plus the awd must have tremendous drivetrain loss. furthermore can awd with electronic yaw control overcome the design of tall and narrow vs a very low and wide 951? like i said, i can't understand it by the numbers, but the evo and sti 's are fast. also how does a motor outlast a warranty running 20+ psi? do they weld the head to the block?
Most people commenting on here are referring to modified Evos. I bet I can take a stock Evo X in my car.
Old 07-05-2008, 06:43 PM
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Have two friends with Evo's. Ones an MR and ones an 8. Easily dispatch both of them. I make about 250rwhp. Other friends cars that cant keep up: 3000GT vr-4, 02 WRX, 03 WRX modded, 240sx w/ CA18DET, 240sx w/ KA24DET, 94 JDM WRX..think thats most of the turbo ones.
Old 07-05-2008, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jf951
trying to understand this (and other cars) objectively: how can a car with 290 advertised hp weighing 3400lb be faster than a mod'd 951 with let's say at least 280 to 300'ish hp and weight in at 3000lb? plus the awd must have tremendous drivetrain loss. furthermore can awd with electronic yaw control overcome the design of tall and narrow vs a very low and wide 951? like i said, i can't understand it by the numbers, but the evo and sti 's are fast. also how does a motor outlast a warranty running 20+ psi? do they weld the head to the block?
The 4G63 is a mystical motor.. they can take alot of abuse if you can stop the dip stick from blowing out under boost . But seriously, as mentioned the Evo and WRX / STi really react well to modifications. My 951 with stock turbo, 3'' and chips (a few other small things also) does not have a chance at keeping up with my two friends who have an Evo MR and a WRX. My friends Evo dynoed at just a hair under 325whp with all bolt ons, cam's, bigger turbo and a ****ty tune. My friends WRX has never been dyno'ed, but it can keep pace with a 997 Turbo. His car is a 2.5L STi block, bigger turbo, all bolt ons and a great tune (custom gears also). Even when i put in my K27 and MAF setup i think i will just be able to keep up with them flat out in a straight line (and i am shooting for 300whp).

The build quality might not be close to our beloved German car's, but respect should absolutely be given to the performance ability of the cars. I dont know of many other $35k cars that can keep pace with some of the $100+k super cars.
Old 07-05-2008, 09:29 PM
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ya never no there easy to mod and easy to drive I had a real pro take me around nurburgering (forgive spelling) in a 997gt3 we were passing everything like it was stationary and an evo posted a challenge for a few corners before yielding to the natural order of the universe
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Originally Posted by trivgar
Have two friends with Evo's. Ones an MR and ones an 8. Easily dispatch both of them. I make about 250rwhp. Other friends cars that cant keep up: 3000GT vr-4, 02 WRX, 03 WRX modded, 240sx w/ CA18DET, 240sx w/ KA24DET, 94 JDM WRX..think thats most of the turbo ones.
That KA-T must be fast
Old 07-05-2008, 11:37 PM
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Oh for sure. Its got a huge turbo on it. We're thinking like 230-240 at 10psi
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Are yall smoking crack? I guess not all Evos are the one in this video (evo 8?), but: Top Gear: Evo vs Lamborghini Murcielago

0-60 in 3.5 seconds stock
flat out 175mph

Somebody show me your 951 that posts those numbers and can go deeper into a corner...
Old 07-06-2008, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by danny951
Are yall smoking crack? I guess not all Evos are the one in this video (evo 8?), but: Top Gear: Evo vs Lamborghini Murcielago

0-60 in 3.5 seconds stock
flat out 175mph

Somebody show me your 951 that posts those numbers and can go deeper into a corner...
Most of the 951's with 350+ rwhp are capable of 180+mph, they might not be able to launch as fast as the evo but from a roll they could leave the evo behind.
Old 07-06-2008, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cory9584
A decent 951 can take an evo any day of the week. I beat one with only minor mods to my car, it was on an open highway and the guy kept trying to push me so i just let him have it.
how much you have invested in your "minor mods"?

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