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is the paragon 3012 rear coilover shock adjustable

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Old 04-24-2008, 12:01 AM
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does not say on the site.
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They are two way adjustable.
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why on earth dont they say that?
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Here ya go... this is from Koni's catalogue:

"The 3012 Series features a threaded aluminum body,
external double-adjustability and a high
pressure gas mono-tube design, ensuring optimum
performance. Our patented mono-tube
design allows for independent adjustments to the
rebound and compression forces. All damping
adjustment are made at the piston, eliminating
the additional weight and packaging complications
of an external reservoir. The 3012 Series
offers one of the broadest adjustment ranges in
the industry, eliminating the need of constant
revalving procedures from track to track.
The rebound adjustment is made at the top of
the shock while the compression is made by full
extending the shock and turning the rod."
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BTW, what are your impressions of the Quaife diff?
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Originally Posted by Geneqco
BTW, what are your impressions of the Quaife diff?
hard to explain becuase the car came with it and I've not spent any time in a car without it. for my driving I would go Guard LSD for several reasons.
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we have the 3012 on the track car, very nice shock for the money.

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Isn't this a bit of a hassle to do some adjustments on though?
Scott, in a few weeks you can drive my car with the full 80% lsd to see if you like it. Personally I don't notice it on the streets much at all in contrast to popular beliefs that they understeer you off the roads.
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I thought you wanted something that wasn't adjustable? Sorry, couldn't help that. The compression would be a bit of headache but not the rebound. The 28 series is different.

In any case, once it's correctly setup, you shouldn't be adjusting all the time anyway, you would adjust when you change springs which isn't such an issue if you're changing springs anyway.

Thanks for the offer too, I'll send you an email a bit later.
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I don't know what I want to be honest. Sounds like pros / cons of both.
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I think I'm going to pull the trigger on these pretty soon. I almost purchased them with 550bs springs last night but I decided against it because I need to buy a very unglamorous steering rack and alternator first. I then need to factor in the cost of all the bushings which are not cheap.

my plan would be to run the fronts , yellow koni single adjustable w/ 400lbs springs up front, and have them converted 2 double adjustable next winter. I should have a pretty nice double adjustablekoni setup for about 2 grand all in.
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Phil, what do you want to do with car anyway? I'll be interested to find out how they go on the street, but the track is my primary interest. How about you?
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the is a daily driver and a track car and most of the mods are done in the name of reliability and performance. most of the work was done by the PO but that being said the car was in simply awful <read unsafe undriveable condition when I got it. I dont think many of the DD crowd to put anything this heavy on the car but comfort is so subjective it impossible to learn how high a spring rate you can go and still drive on the street comfortably. I guess you just need to know what you feel comfortable. my last car was a audi a4 and I ran 800lbs springs on the street. It felt great to me but I got more then a few comments asking what was wrong with my car. I think I'm going to start with 400 upfront (from the po) and go 550 in the rear. then if i need more spring I'll and a couple hundred lbs front and rear.

one note on the side. some of the tracks i go to are quite rough so I'm concerned about super stiff front springs and how they might effect the cars tendency to lock the front wheels in the brake zones. this is why i likely wont go stiffer in the front to start.
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I hate to say it but this is where the KW's are so good. They allow you to have it good both ways. For the road and track. Anyway I bang on too much about them. Sorry.
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I'm not so sure about kw. a friend purchised a nice kit for his car and had nothing but problems. I've also heard alot about corrosion problems. may not be an issue in Australia but it is for us in the Midwest. anyway he took them off and used koni's from Stasis and all was right with the world. I had koni motorsports shocks on my last car (double adjustable aluminum housing) and I was very pleased with them. had street bilsteins before that and i dont believe they stay consistent on the track. not apples to apples obviously but I'm likely just going to get the koni 3012 and then have my front yellows converted by true choice to double adjustable. i'll be less then 2 grand into the operation and i'm pretty sure I know what i'm going to get. plus i'm somewhat accustomed to adjusting the konis. I need to do a bit more research but thats the way i'm leaning right now.


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