Can a nice motor be done for 5k?
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Can a nice motor be done for 5k?
Okay im back. Long story short im not putting the v8 in this car. I do have plans for that motor. I want to put it in a dump car that can be turned at the track.
Sooooo..... that leaves me with a un running 951 that has been sitting forever. Lets see what we can do about that.
Because the other project is going to be costing me greatly I do not have alot of funds left for this street car. However I really love this car and just flat out refuse to part with it at this point. So I am asking the 951 car gods to shine apon with with valuable resources and knowledge I do not current have nor have the time to research.
I would like to have a running in june/july at the latest. I have a budget of 5k including parts/labor/everything. I do have my old motor with rebuilt turbo lindsey head/lindsey maf/chips/ ect ect.
So. How in the world can I do this? Buy someones old motor thats been built and swap it in? Sell my old one... Build what I have?? I need some serious guidence here as I don't part with money easily but, im tired of seeing that lovely car sitting in the driveway.
Here are my goals.
i'd like it to look nice(chrome intake many/hard pipes/decent blowoff valve/remote air/oil seperator/decent turbo/head/ combo with some new chips.
I'd like to run 16psi on pump gas mostly but, have the option to run 20psi with good fuel for the occasional track day(im going to get out to MSR if it kills me).
So please come one come all. This will be my mega thread on this project. If you have parts to sell or you think you can offer some great guidence or help please post.
I know budgets are like ******** everyone has one but, if I could get out at around 5k with selling my old stuff(if that is the route we decide to go) for the entire project that would be great.
Sooooo..... that leaves me with a un running 951 that has been sitting forever. Lets see what we can do about that.
Because the other project is going to be costing me greatly I do not have alot of funds left for this street car. However I really love this car and just flat out refuse to part with it at this point. So I am asking the 951 car gods to shine apon with with valuable resources and knowledge I do not current have nor have the time to research.
I would like to have a running in june/july at the latest. I have a budget of 5k including parts/labor/everything. I do have my old motor with rebuilt turbo lindsey head/lindsey maf/chips/ ect ect.
So. How in the world can I do this? Buy someones old motor thats been built and swap it in? Sell my old one... Build what I have?? I need some serious guidence here as I don't part with money easily but, im tired of seeing that lovely car sitting in the driveway.
Here are my goals.
i'd like it to look nice(chrome intake many/hard pipes/decent blowoff valve/remote air/oil seperator/decent turbo/head/ combo with some new chips.
I'd like to run 16psi on pump gas mostly but, have the option to run 20psi with good fuel for the occasional track day(im going to get out to MSR if it kills me).
So please come one come all. This will be my mega thread on this project. If you have parts to sell or you think you can offer some great guidence or help please post.
I know budgets are like ******** everyone has one but, if I could get out at around 5k with selling my old stuff(if that is the route we decide to go) for the entire project that would be great.
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head refresh - $500 basic
Pistons - $900-$1200 with rings
machine work $350-$600
bearings/gaskets/seals/belts/rollers - $950
Water pump - $240-$400
Clutch - $700?
turbo/MAF/software/piggyback...and all of the above depends on how you go.
or buy a running engine with inspection/compression test and upgrade it out of the car - there is one in the classifieds. Powder coating may be cheaper that polished parts, rebuilt turbo, used MAF/chip combo.
Pistons - $900-$1200 with rings
machine work $350-$600
bearings/gaskets/seals/belts/rollers - $950
Water pump - $240-$400
Clutch - $700?
turbo/MAF/software/piggyback...and all of the above depends on how you go.
or buy a running engine with inspection/compression test and upgrade it out of the car - there is one in the classifieds. Powder coating may be cheaper that polished parts, rebuilt turbo, used MAF/chip combo.
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head refresh - $500 basic
Pistons - $900-$1200 with rings
machine work $350-$600
bearings/gaskets/seals/belts/rollers - $950
Water pump - $240-$400
Clutch - $700?
turbo/MAF/software/piggyback...and all of the above depends on how you go.
or buy a running engine with inspection/compression test and upgrade it out of the car - there is one in the classifieds. Powder coating may be cheaper that polished parts, rebuilt turbo, used MAF/chip combo.
Pistons - $900-$1200 with rings
machine work $350-$600
bearings/gaskets/seals/belts/rollers - $950
Water pump - $240-$400
Clutch - $700?
turbo/MAF/software/piggyback...and all of the above depends on how you go.
or buy a running engine with inspection/compression test and upgrade it out of the car - there is one in the classifieds. Powder coating may be cheaper that polished parts, rebuilt turbo, used MAF/chip combo.
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Get a used engine until you can build the engine you want. No point in pissing away money. Call lart, see what he's got. He's usually reasonable Dont waste your time with headwork at this point, or crazy mods. Put your turbo on it, get a few "pretty" engine parts (polished or powder coated intake, hard pipes) get it tuned with a maf, and call it a day FOR NOW. As you well know, there is always the opportunity to do more LATER. If you want to go standalone so you have a path to upgrade I think there is a new Tec Lite option (TecGT I believe it's called), cheaper than the old 3/R option. Pretty sure Chris White has those now.
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Problem I see is the install...and a few items add up quick. New clutch, turbochargers arent cheap...I dont know your mods and what would carryover but I would have to say the best bet is to find a good motor and reseal it, throw new rod bearings in, bolt all the goodies you already have on it - add new clutch, new sensors, motor mounts, turbo/maf/wg/pb/injectors, etc and try to sell off what you can. Making it pretty takes time - best to have it all up front to polish/take to the coater, etc...and the old "while you are in there" really adds up. When we swapped motors I replaced just about anything I could that would be apart/out and didnt add up receipts
Seems like a lofty goal @ 5k to me personally but it could be doable depending on what you already have and could sell. Good luck-
Seems like a lofty goal @ 5k to me personally but it could be doable depending on what you already have and could sell. Good luck-
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head refresh - $500 basic
Pistons - $900-$1200 with rings
machine work $350-$600
bearings/gaskets/seals/belts/rollers - $950
Water pump - $240-$400
Clutch - $700?
turbo/MAF/software/piggyback...and all of the above depends on how you go.
or buy a running engine with inspection/compression test and upgrade it out of the car - there is one in the classifieds. Powder coating may be cheaper that polished parts, rebuilt turbo, used MAF/chip combo.
Pistons - $900-$1200 with rings
machine work $350-$600
bearings/gaskets/seals/belts/rollers - $950
Water pump - $240-$400
Clutch - $700?
turbo/MAF/software/piggyback...and all of the above depends on how you go.
or buy a running engine with inspection/compression test and upgrade it out of the car - there is one in the classifieds. Powder coating may be cheaper that polished parts, rebuilt turbo, used MAF/chip combo.
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Get a used engine until you can build the engine you want. No point in pissing away money. Call lart, see what he's got. He's usually reasonable Dont waste your time with headwork at this point, or crazy mods. Put your turbo on it, get a few "pretty" engine parts (polished or powder coated intake, hard pipes) get it tuned with a maf, and call it a day FOR NOW. As you well know, there is always the opportunity to do more LATER. If you want to go standalone so you have a path to upgrade I think there is a new Tec Lite option (TecGT I believe it's called), cheaper than the old 3/R option. Pretty sure Chris White has those now.
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Paiging lart!@! come in please sir.
Problem I see is the install...and a few items add up quick. New clutch, turbochargers arent cheap...I dont know your mods and what would carryover but I would have to say the best bet is to find a good motor and reseal it, throw new rod bearings in, bolt all the goodies you already have on it - add new clutch, new sensors, motor mounts, turbo/maf/wg/pb/injectors, etc and try to sell off what you can. Making it pretty takes time - best to have it all up front to polish/take to the coater, etc...and the old "while you are in there" really adds up. When we swapped motors I replaced just about anything I could that would be apart/out and didnt add up receipts
Seems like a lofty goal @ 5k to me personally but it could be doable depending on what you already have and could sell. Good luck-
Seems like a lofty goal @ 5k to me personally but it could be doable depending on what you already have and could sell. Good luck-
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perhaps that could be my goal. Have the car running by july 15th
lord help me im looking through the classifieds. Lots of good parts and even complete motors with work for very resonable seeming prices
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Building a motor yourself will nickel and dime you to death. Best to look at already built motors. I spent a load on building my own motor. When I decided to part my car I only got 3k for it and had tons more money/time into it.
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yeh also unfinished modded motors are top value I'm trying to sell my 2.5 with turbo worked head (freash)extrude honed inlet on old oringed bottom end and i can't get 4k AU for think I'll just cain it til it breaks
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80000 mile motor in classifieds, if you could get it down a few hundred dollars or as stated, check with Lart - might be just what you're looking for. Would you do the install?