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Old 01-21-2008, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris White
in PCA racing the 968 is classed 1 group higher than a non S turbo.
In fact at Watkins Glen (a fast track) the F stock record is held by a 944S2 - not by a 951.....
There you go getting all uppity and bringing facts to the discussion, Chris. WTF?
Old 01-21-2008, 10:17 PM
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http://www.mojvideo.com/video-audi-r...ategory=&time=

this audi is faster than ferrari enzo.
that's a fact.

BUT IT WASNT FASTER THAN ENZO WHEN IT ROLLED OUT OF FACTORY

and stock 1989 944 Turbo (951S) IS FASTER than 968 in ALL respects.


how come the most stupid questions that can be answered by google in 7 sec. get the most attention here?
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You ever raced one on a track? They get by you in the corners every time, S2 and 968.
Stupid is a stupid does".
Old 01-22-2008, 12:05 AM
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[QUOTE=Voith;5011602]
and stock 1989 944 Turbo (951S) IS FASTER than 968 in ALL respects.

[QUOTE]

I bet the 968 club sport is faster than an 89 turbo from 0 - 10 mph.....
Old 01-22-2008, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by beab951
You ever raced one on a track? They get by you in the corners every time, S2 and 968.
Stupid is a stupid does".
Could be the driver?
Old 01-22-2008, 12:16 AM
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how come the most stupid questions that can be answered by google in 7 sec. get the most attention here?
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Its not all that simple. spool time is a factor when actually racing. Same could be said for gearing (s2) etc etc.
Old 01-22-2008, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris White
Originally Posted by Voith
and stock 1989 944 Turbo (951S) IS FASTER than 968 in ALL respects.
I bet the 968 club sport is faster than an 89 turbo from 0 - 10 mph.....
Boost lags sucks.

The specs don't tell the entire store.
Old 01-22-2008, 12:21 AM
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I own both an 89 S2 and 951. I don't think my S2 would pull my 951 anywhere unless I put a hitch on it. They are both great cars. If driven properly the turbo will win. To do this you need both feet pretty much all the time.
Old 01-22-2008, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ehall
N/A 968 or turbo?
na, but really the better driver will win 10 out of 10 times. I've been on the track with a close to stock engined 951S and it's pretty even pulling down the straights. My car braked better but that may have been tires, pads or difference in skill.

Once I got around him it was all over.
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Originally Posted by lart951
Could be the driver?


You are right, but I haven’t seen any other 951 driver do much better in stock configuration.
But now I am cheating, more HP and better suspension. That is how most win this matchup. In stock configuration, the result is in favor of the 3.0 liter with it even torque curve across all RPMs.

I have had the pleasure to ride with drivers that take these machines to another level, better driver wins.
Old 01-22-2008, 12:34 AM
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Stock vs stock 968 CS is faster around race track. At least it was in Hockenheim when cars were new.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track7.html

Code:
MY   Model                            Time     HP    KG
2003 Porsche Carrera GT               1:08.6   612   1380
2006 Porsche 997 GT3 RS               1:11.1   415   1375
2006 Porsche 997 GT3                  1:11.7   415   1395
2003 Porsche 996 GT3 RS               1:11.8   381   1360
2006 Porsche 997 Turbo                1:11.9   480   1585
2003 Porsche 996 GT2                  1:12.6   460   1430
2007 Porsche 997 Turbo Cabriolet      1:13.1   480   1640
2003 Porsche 996 GT3                  1:13.2   380   1380
1995 Porsche 993 GT2                  1:14.2   436   1295
2004 Porsche 997 Carrera S            1:14.3   355   1420
1995 Porsche 993 Turbo (3.6)          1:14.4   408   1502
2000 Porsche 996 Turbo                1:14.6   420   1540
1999 Porsche 911 GT3                  1:14.9   360   1350
2005 Porsche Cayman S                 1:15.5   295   1340
2006 Porsche 987 Boxster S (291bhp)   1:15.6   295   1355
2005 Porsche 987 Boxster S (276bhp)   1:15.7   280   1345
1997 Porsche 911 Carrera              1:15.9   300   1320
2004 Porsche 997 Carrera              1:15.9   325   1395
2004 Porsche 986 Boxster S (262bhp)   1:16.2   266   1320
1992 Porsche 964 Turbo S              1:16.2   380   1293
2005 Porsche 997 Carrera Cabriolet    1:16.4   325   1460
2001 Porsche 996 Carrera 4            1:16.6   320   1405
2005 Porsche 997 Carrera S Cabrio     1:16.8   355   1561
2004 Porsche 997 Carrera              1:16.9   325   1395
2001 Porsche 996 Carrera              1:17.1   320   1345
1992 Porsche 964 Carrera RS N/GT      1:17.2   260   1232
2005 Porsche 987 Boxster              1:17.4   240   1398
1993 Porsche 968 Turbo S              1:18.2   305   1356
1993 Porsche 993 Carrera              1:18.3   272   1350
1995 Porsche 993 Carrera Cabrio       1:18.3   286   1370
1999 Porsche 986 Boxster S (248bhp)   1:18.3   252   1295
2006 Porsche Cayman 2.7               1:18.5   245   1300
1996 Porsche 986 Boxster (201bhp)     1:19.3   204   1250
2002 Porsche 986 Boxster (225bhp)     1:19.4   228   1275
1993 Porsche 968 CS                   1:19.8   240   1324
1992 Porsche 928 GTS                  1:20.1   350   1630
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S              1:20.8   250   1406
1988 Porsche 928 S4                   1:24.1   320   1550
1975 Porsche 930 Turbo 3.0            1:24.8   260   1140
Old 01-22-2008, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by beab951
But now I am cheating, more HP and better suspension. That is how most win this matchup.
I would say:
#1 tires
#2 suspesnsion
#3 brakes
#4 hp
Old 01-22-2008, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chris luckett
I would say:
#1 tires
#2 suspesnsion
#3 brakes
#4 hp
You nailed it.
Old 01-22-2008, 01:18 AM
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On the track it's going to be close as the 3.0n/a is going to have no spool issues and is a bit lighter, but once on the open road with long uphill sweepers and the like, the 951 walks him.
Old 01-22-2008, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Stock vs stock 968 CS is faster around race track. At least it was in Hockenheim when cars were new.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track7.html

Code:
MY   Model                            Time     HP    KG

1992 Porsche 928 GTS                  1:20.1   350   1630
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S              1:20.8   250   1406
1988 Porsche 928 S4                   1:24.1   320   1550
1975 Porsche 930 Turbo 3.0            1:24.8   260   1140


That's so sad the 928 S4 with double the cyl, double the displacement is 4 sec slower than a stock 944 Turbo S. and the 928GTS is less than a second faster.


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