George D

http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/po...90865661pp.htm

Link to the car.

George

333pg333

That's some car there George. Why don't you buy it?

George D

I like having a car that is street legal. This is really a very good deal though. They have much money tied up in this. The parts alone would make Lart blush.

George

marksportcts

Does anyone know if the 928 transmission would work in our cars or how much modification is required?

TheRealLefty

Adding a little fuel to the fire, here. Our friends at the Secret Car Club Of America (SCCA) actually have some specs for 944 Turbos in their hill climb/time trial classifications that make reference to allowing Hewland boxes and (IIRC) 54 mm intakes....as if they were shooting at the spec of a specific car. Could this be an overlooked historic reference to the Milledge/Kelly Moss car(s)?

333pg333

So is this car still for sale?

eniac

Who cares if it's legal! If you have $25k to spend on a transmission NO ONE should question your judgement. hehe.

George D

So is this car still for sale?

Patrick,

I knew this might catch your attention. Many of the issues you are currently dealing with will be handled with the parts on this car. You could part everything else.

Go to the link and contact the seller. I don't know if it's still for sale. Shipping to Australia via tanker isn't too bad.

Landjet

The car is still for sale. I have been in contact with the current owner and passed owners today. The current owner just bought it to mark it up and make some money. You can tell by talking to him he is just trying to turn it which is all fine and dandy but the value of the car will be in the eye of the holder of the dollars. It was imported by Al Holbert but never raced under him. He just imported it and sold it so the car has no value in race history. Since it is now nowhere close to the Escort spec's as imported for that series, that value is gone. So if interested make sure you price it as just a nicely built 944T race car and not a car with valuable or appreciating race history, there is none.
Anyway it is a very nice car and anyone wanting more info can PM me since I found out more than I wrote here.
Oh by the way the prev owner said he had no problem running the gearbox in PCA but was not sure if it was legal or no one ever looked. Well I guess that really didn't help much.

333pg333

It is very interesting but probably not quite the right time for me.
Has anyone priced such a gearbox? I thought Guns priced a Hollinger sequential which was approx $40k but this was probably with paddles too.

A.Wayne

why not use a Z06 tranny ......

Or try this one on for size, 22,000, Quaife Q-Tek 'S' 6-Speed Sequential Gearbox Package made for a 996 , but nothing a little upside down engineering could'nt solve in making it work for your 944


Quaife Q-Tek 'S' 6-Speed Sequential Gearbox Package
Product code: QBE42G
Catalogue Page: 58

£10,950.00 (Unit price exc. VAT)
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Download detailed product information for Quaife Q-Tek 'S' 6-Speed Sequential Gearbox Package Technical Drawing
This gearbox has the following features:

All dimensions as latest Porsche 996
Maximum recommended power 450BHP not true 996 gt3 rsr will exceed this
Dog engagement, sequential only
Straight cut race or helical cut road
Quaife ATB differential fitted as standard
Oil pump incorporated within the unit
Various ratio options
Re-designed with hypoid crown wheel and pinion
Larger 85mm shaft centres

Gear ratio options:

Race Road
1st: 2.600, 3.000
2nd: 1.933, 2.000
3rd: 1.533, 1.458
4th: 1.250, 1.143
5th: 1.043, 0.921
6th: 0.880, 0.780

Final Drive ratios: 3.700, 4.111

333pg333

Hmm, nice idea but it can't handle enough hp unless they can make some changes to it? How realistic would the Z06 be?

special tool

I would use it.
Porsche would probably say not to exceeed 300 HPon the 951S transmission also.

333pg333

Hmm seriously, what are the alternatives after the stock gearbox's for highly modified versions of our cars? Hewland profess to make race only boxes, but are open to suggestion if you really want a race car gearbox in your streetcar however I think they would do their best to talk you out of it . How realistic is the Corvette box?

TheRealLefty

The practicality of any major component swap (assuming it physically fits) is limited only by the fabrication skiils needed. If the swap were considered popular and practical enough there are literally hundreds of cottage industry shops (beginning with, but not limited to, Kelly Moss and Lindsey) who could fab or commission a shifting tube, switching gear, drive shaft yoke, mounts and CV/axles.

The question is really not how in the technical sense, but rather "why" in the business sense. Consider the case of Renegade. Would be very interesting to see if they sell a hundred 944/914/911 conversions kits in a year's time. Only guessing, but I would guess not, as we see a dozen or so such finished cars for sale in any given year. For discussion's sake, say they sell 50 at what, $800 each? That's $40K in gross sales for producing and holding inventory on a garage full of bellhousings and what nots. God bless the folks who convert their passionate love niche performance cars into small businesses, but God Help 'Em, too!

Strong stable aftermarket companies like Paragon, Pelican, Performance Products (Automotion), Bavarian Auto make their living on main stream maintenance, restoration and repair parts. That business base allows them to provide specialty parts like the great Paragon adjustable perch strut kits, but I fear their doors could not stay open simply on specialty go-fast stuff.