Catless vs 3" test pipe and catback
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Originally Posted by Cory9584
a testpipe is catless. and i dont think youll notice much of a difference at lower power levels unless its clogged. It does sound better without a cat imo though.
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those of you who said 'no', have you performed a before/after dyno test? what are you basing your statement on?
i have performed a before/after dyno test between the stock exhaust (with cat and muffler) vs. the lindsey full 3" system (without cat and with edelbrock 3" rpm muffler) and there is a noticable difference in torque, and quicker turbo spoolup. there is almost no difference in hp though.
because it lowers spoolup substantially, a 3" exhaust system (or at the very minimum, a test pipe) is definitely worth the money on a 951 in my opinion, even if everything else is stock.
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i have performed a before/after dyno test between the stock exhaust (with cat and muffler) vs. the lindsey full 3" system (without cat and with edelbrock 3" rpm muffler) and there is a noticable difference in torque, and quicker turbo spoolup. there is almost no difference in hp though.
because it lowers spoolup substantially, a 3" exhaust system (or at the very minimum, a test pipe) is definitely worth the money on a 951 in my opinion, even if everything else is stock.
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because it lowers spoolup substantially, a 3" exhaust system (or at the very minimum, a test pipe) is definitely worth the money on a 951 in my opinion, even if everything else is stock.
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Very interesting. I tested a 2.5" exhaust (no cat) vs a 3.0 Lindsey on a stock car and the gains were 4hp and 7tq as testing on my mustang.
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Originally Posted by PorscheDoc
Very interesting. I tested a 2.5" exhaust (no cat) vs a 3.0 Lindsey on a stock car and the gains were 4hp and 7tq as testing on my mustang.
do you have a before/after graph? post it up!
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The main restriction is the stock cat. If you ever looked through one (well tried) you would discover that you can't even see sunlight trough it.
A catless 2.5" vs 3" would not differ by much on a stock car (as Doc reports)
A catless 2.5" vs 3" would not differ by much on a stock car (as Doc reports)
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Originally Posted by Duke
The main restriction is the stock cat. If you ever looked through one (well tried) you would discover that you can't even see sunlight trough it.
A catless 2.5" vs 3" would not differ by much on a stock car (as Doc reports)
A catless 2.5" vs 3" would not differ by much on a stock car (as Doc reports)
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This is what I expected, thanks for all responses. Next question, will the turbulance of the gutted cat be much improved by a staight pipe?
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Which muffler would be better the stock and slightly,maybe 25%, louder then stock set up(being catless)
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Steve
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Which muffler would be better the stock and slightly,maybe 25%, louder then stock set up(being catless)
Thanks Again
Steve
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My cat was plugged, so when I put a test pipe on alone I got 3 more pounds of boost. Had to turn my MBC down then but still felt like more punch and quicker spool up after that.