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Old 06-17-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Running Rich + backfire (pics)

At idle or regular driving, the car A/F meter remains at stoich. When i'm at WOT or approaching it, the A/F goes rich. The problem gets worse when I go from 14 to 15 psi boost. Also when i'm changing gears, I will get the occasional backfire. Any ideas what it could be? I'm leaning toward the oxygen sensor or injectors.

Car has no cat, no oil in intercooler pipes, and no vacuum leaks.

picture of crusing and idle:


picture of WOT
Old 06-17-2007, 08:44 PM
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Sounds like your car is behaving the way it should be to me.
Old 06-17-2007, 08:46 PM
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It is supposed to go rich on WOT...if it doesn't, then you have to look for what is wrong.
Old 06-17-2007, 08:47 PM
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Yeah, you want to be in the green under throttle if thats a narrow band.
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Horrible Narrowband A/F gauge with generic readings. Get a Wideband with numbers and then post how rich you're really running.
Old 06-17-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MPD47
Horrible Narrowband A/F gauge with generic readings. Get a Wideband with numbers and then post how rich you're really running.
What would you recommend?
Old 06-17-2007, 08:57 PM
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That's a point of strong debate in my book, I would talk to one of our vendors and let them sell you something.
Old 06-17-2007, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ballistic
What would you recommend?
You'll hear a vote for nearly every available wideband o2 sensor on this board.. Just do some research and pick one (or let a vendor tell you what to buy, as Mike suggested).

My car runs rich under WOT too, its normal and a good thing (Oh, and I get backfiring sometimes when I let off the gas).
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There is no magic pill. I think if my cars run rich under WOT I count it as a blessing opposed to running lean. Every run I have been on the 951's always have a bit of unburnt fuel in the exhaust. I would much rather foul an O2 sensor or cat than buy a new motor.
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Used the search feature and decided to go with the Zt-2. Will be fun to learn something new and fine tune my car!
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Originally Posted by Ballistic
At idle or regular driving, the car A/F meter remains at stoich. When i'm at WOT or approaching it, the A/F goes rich. The problem gets worse when I go from 14 to 15 psi boost. Also when i'm changing gears, I will get the occasional backfire. Any ideas what it could be? I'm leaning toward the oxygen sensor or injectors.

Car has no cat, no oil in intercooler pipes, and no vacuum leaks.

Dude that's horrible, adjust your a/f to run 14.7 at wot, lol , your car is running fine just if you want something simple and accurate get the AEM wideband for $ 218.00 installs in 20 minutes or so.

check the video it appears next to my boost gauge. I also use the lm-1 for datalogging.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAdsNsXOGk
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Originally Posted by lart951
Dude that's horrible, adjust your a/f to run 14.7 at wot, lol , your car is running fine just if you want something simple and accurate get the AEM wideband for $ 218.00 installs in 20 minutes or so.

check the video it appears next to my boost gauge. I also use the lm-1 for datalogging.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tAdsNsXOGk
AEM wideband won't let me datalog and make adjustments correct?

edit: nevermind you are using lm-1

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Lart, why would you buy the AEM for 218.00 and then the lm-1 for 350.00 when the Zeitronix allows you to do all that for less?
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Originally Posted by Ballistic
AEM wideband won't let me datalog and make adjustments correct?

edit: nevermind you are using lm-1

edit again:
Lart, why would you buy the AEM for 218.00 and then the lm-1 for 350.00 when the Zeitronix allows you to do all that for less?
I bought the Lm-1 originally the advantage is that you can use it on many cars in matter of minutes the zeitronics doesn't allow you to do that efficiently, in my case since I have more than one 951 the lm-1 is cost effective.
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Speaking of Zeitronix... I should be receiving a package in the next couple days
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Originally Posted by The DareDevil
Speaking of Zeitronix... I should be receiving a package in the next couple days
Nice. Please provide a review when you are done!

I also found this:
http://members.rennlist.com/tom86951...nd%20wires.htm

hopefully you can use it on your 944


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