You guys keep talking about 924 carrera gts cars.....that's like someone asking about a 968 and telling them you like your 968 turboRS!

The truth of the matter is, it is going to cost more to maintain a 931 than it is worth, that is why you can buy them so cheap.

 

The cooolant enters the front on all models on the gtr it exits from the back , while on the gt,gts it exits at the front like the standard road cars ...

Carter they are cheap because there is no demand for them......

 

Mine GTS is still all 931 drive train. I also had an 80 931 I saw in a horse barn when I was driving back to town one evening. I went back the next day and bought it, put a battery in it (it had 50,000 original miles and had been sitting for 3 years) and it started up. I drove it for 1 1/2 years trouble free. I may have gotten lucky with that part. I found out from the seller he acually traded a horse for it so how can anyone say there is no demand for them. Hehehehe. Oh and it had sports seats.

 

I wish.

 

931=944na<951


931s cost about the same as 951s to maintain.

 

Most of the people that has posted int his thread hav absolutely NO clue what 931 is all about, except NEMESIS924 and A.Wayne. Does "I heard..." sentence counts as experience? Yeah-yeah.

931 crank, rods and block is by far stronger than ANY 944/951/968 part and can withstand lots of boost (3 Bar over atmospheric no problem). Just get appropriate custom Wiseco pistons whatever style you like (hey, it's cast iron not Alusil block) and give the head a little help with bigger valves and some porting job. Performance camshafts are available from Integral and Piper Cams in several stages.
First thing to throw off is CIS and convert it to standalone EFI which I've done several times.
Weighing 1100kg's and having in excess of 450hp sounds like smoking most of the Porsches on Earth
I've personally met a driven two 931's that pushed in excess of 400hp on the dyno.
Pretty soon my own long-term project gets on the roed and has jopefully numbers of the same league.

But, parts are harder to come by even though they are cheap. At the same time, this car is so simple to work with.
And it's NOT recommended to guys who can't hold wrench in his hands. So no pussies allowed

 

Oh, US 150hp 931's aren't the best performers but I lately added a turbo to Euro NA and it's WAY faster than stock 220hp 951.

 

You must learn how to spell check racegirl. I dont think 931's end up in the junkyard because their owners can't hold a wrench or because they are pussies. I think it's because they realize that they spend way too much money on a car that doesn't satisfy their needs for the cash they spend. Like any other porsche, it has to be cared for and owned by someone who appreciates it for what it is and what it has to offer. End of story.

Yes, I agree 951 > 931. By far.

 

Nitehawk, I don't think anyone really disagrees that a 951 is more refined and ultimately porsche's revised version of the 931.. so naturally its "better".

However, maintenance wise, a properly cared for 931 and a properly cared for 951, the 951 will cost more to maintain. There is just more room, and is easier to work on a 931.

931s definitely have potential but its not off the shelf parts, its ingenuity and custom work.

 

nitehawk951, you must learn some Porsche history and only then come and teach me what to do. English isn't my native language and I think I can make myself understandable pretty much to all of the folks.
Seen much worse spelling from Americans that can't make the difference between "break" and "brake".

 

For some reason I believe this probably happened (break/brake). Good point. But let me teach you something, from the little that I know. I have yet to see a 951 in a parts yard (the kind where you yourself remove the parts). I have seen more than a handful of 931's and a plethora of 924's there. And yes, I have seen 944's (N/A only, no "S" or "S2" either) there quite a few times. I can only teach what I have seen or experienced, and that is the fact that there must be a reason that these cars don't last or remain on the road. No, maybe I dont know exactly what it is, but maybe it is a combination of many things that lead to their demise. What I do know is that in 5 years you would be more likely to see a 951 "S" on the road than a N/A 924. They were once a dime a dozen.

When something is rare, it's not always a good thing. I would laugh if someone bragged that he or she owned one of the last Ford Pinto's or Chevy Vega's and loved how you never see them on the road anymore. Yes, a 931 is a different story. But a 924........I can't agree with anyone on this.

I guess all my hate goes back to the day some guy saw my 84' 944 and mentioned he had a 931 GTS and commented "Oh yea, my GTS will beat any 944 N/A." Yea, so what? Who would brag this? A very sad and desperate man, thats who. I love the 951 so much, and that has to mean that I also must acknowledge the role the 924 played in the development of such a wonderful machine. But if someone told me I had to choose between a 931 GTS or my sold 84' 944, I would go with the 944 all the way. No offense to anyone, but it is just my logic and understanding from what I have seen. Porsche history holds no flame compared to a person's own experiences.

 

No offense taken , But if you do run across a 924 Carrera gts being given away , PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL , heck i will even throw in a 84 n/a 944 and a 86 , 951 just for your time ...

 

Dead, but not forgotton.
Steve Ed

 

Dude , do you have an idea what a 924 Carrera gts cost??

http://www.356-911.com/post1974/mode...che924cgts.htm
http://www.mathewscollection.com/for...orsche_924.htm
http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/...hp/carno/17233

 

Yes lart, very very few were made. Thank you very much for the pics and links. I bet your wondering how much you could make by parting it out. I hope your not. They do look awesome, I can't deny that. But I wonder how they feel. And I will always keep my eyes peeled, for this and a lot more. You never know when you might find something special.

...............except a 914 (unless its a 916), I know its a porsche but I just can't guys, sorry.