ibkevin

Nice runaway thread.

And how does all this assist Kevin with his 928 application?

billindenver

Well, that depends. Is this the 928 forum?

Tms951

I think the Liquid to Air Barrel Intercooler from pwr-performance would work in the stock location. But they are expensive and you still need other parts and which cost and weigh more. But you could add ice to the water resivior and water to air intercoolers are meant to be very efficient.

It is my understanding that if you two intercooler cores of the same volume but one was thicker with less surface area and the other thinner with more surface area the thinner one cools better and the thicker one flows better. I think this is where the power gains on the dyno come from with the Lindsey racing intercooler.

I think you are off on this one (and truely off topic as well). John D. posted about knocking vendors and product (we didn't do this) and harassment (none of this either). He made a technical post, I found it to partialy to be misleading and gave my opinion (technical), I feel this is constructive on a technical thread. Then he replied asking me a question, I answered in a civil fasion, it was on topic because it gave reason and back ground to a prior technical post.

What I don't think this forum needs and has to much of is self apointed Moderators that conduct them selves like kindergarden teachers, we have moderators let them do thier job I doubt they need your help.

333pg333

He didn't seem concerned with this aspect although we won't know until it goes on just how much if at all it affects the radiator? As for upgrading the radiator possibly the space vacated by the old i/c may lend itself to modifying?

Tms951

The larger concern should lie in the radiator heating the intercooler. The air charge entering the intercooler is not that hot compaired to the coolent that enters the radiator. The problem with a front mount is the lack of air flow to the radiator and not its temp. Spacing the intercooler away from the radiator 2-3" helps alot in both problems. Venting the hood or nose panel between the radiator and intercooler because the air flow will leave that vent and never go through the radiator. Forcing air in between the two is also bad because air will not pass through the intercooler while it will go through the radiator.

A front mount tends not to be the best choice compaired to a v-mount, side mount (with good ducting) or a top mount. I liked the top mount of the stock design and went for the Lindsey Racing stage V intercooler, while the LR set up has some flaws like is thickness, it flows very well and there is no problems with the intercooler and radiator relationship. It also keeps the plumbing short compaired to a front mount. A front mount of equal core volume that is spaced off from the radiator will have better cooling but worse flow and more "lag". I also have tin ducting for my set up which helps alot.

Guns951

SFR's intercooler is perfect, mine will be slightly larger than his regular one and sit in front of the radiator.

By ducting the back of the radiator to a vent you create suction that helps pull air through the IC and rad. Plus the cores Tim uses for his ICs are designed for optimum flow through keeping the radiator in mind.

pole position

Have to disagree abour the perfect part. That IC sits low right behind the vented part of the bumper and IMO the majority of the cooling flow to the radiator comes from there. That location needs also long tubing , the shorter the tubing the better, not the case here. As far as the cores are concerned the only optimum flow core/cast endtanks would come from the aircraft industry at mega $$$ which I am sure are not used here, most likely it is a Spearco core, while good certainly not the best.

AlexE

I finally video taped a few tricks the new intercooler is capable of.........

Building boost at a standstill........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLH1aI3Wo4A

TRP951

I see you are making ~10psi reving it. IIRC tedwrights car with the stage 2 turbo and full SFR 3" exhaust made like 7psi.

special tool

That's right.
I have said this before.
Changing from stock to larger IC with a larger turbocharger will LOWER boost onset.
In other words, contrary to a lot of turkeys (some are even vendors)
You will get BETTER spoolup with a larger IC when you have a larger turbocharger on your 951.

RolexNJ

Yes, Master Of The Obvious!

333pg333

Oh great M.O.T.O. what ducting / venting do you suggest for the front mounted i/c?

evil 944t

Oh master, I knew you knew its was not rocket science. I stated that earlier in the thread and got shot down.. hmm you most know somone.. ob1 kanobe

RolexNJ

What's up with that avatar too Tool?

TRP951

idk where it came from but I like it