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Originally Posted by Olli Snellman
I do not like the idea of cutting the frame because of bigger IC. Have any of you experience of water/air IC's mounted on 951? Water/air IC can be rather small and still have a capacity what bigger "normal" IC have.
Originally Posted by Porschefile
Hehe, it's a good thing you didn't go that large! Generally, in my experience, much over a ~3-3.5" thick core and the rear half of the core is significantly less effective at cooling. Going with something like 5" thick would be a waste of time as opposed to simply going with say a longer or taller core since you'd have more total surface area.
Originally Posted by beab951
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What I don't think this forum needs and has to much of is self apointed Moderators that conduct them selves like kindergarden teachers, we have moderators let them do thier job I doubt they need your help.
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Originally Posted by Geneqco
Thanks Patrick. I guess I was more concerned at the effect of the air being heated by the IC before actually getting to the radiator rather than just the flow to the radiator. Have they made any comments?
My concern is that with the power projections some of us have, it may be really pushing the envelope to expect the stock radiator to cope, especially if it has warmer air entering because of the IC position. Say we are increasing power output by 100% +, we have roughly that much extra heat that also needs to be dissipated. My other concern is that placement of the IC in front of the radiator may also limit the opportunity to upgrade the radiator if that does in fact become necessary.
Any comments?
My concern is that with the power projections some of us have, it may be really pushing the envelope to expect the stock radiator to cope, especially if it has warmer air entering because of the IC position. Say we are increasing power output by 100% +, we have roughly that much extra heat that also needs to be dissipated. My other concern is that placement of the IC in front of the radiator may also limit the opportunity to upgrade the radiator if that does in fact become necessary.
Any comments?
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Originally Posted by Geneqco
Thanks Patrick. I guess I was more concerned at the effect of the air being heated by the IC before actually getting to the radiator rather than just the flow to the radiator. Have they made any comments?
My concern is that with the power projections some of us have, it may be really pushing the envelope to expect the stock radiator to cope, especially if it has wamrer air entering because of the IC position. Say we are increasing power output by 100% +, we have roughly that much extra heat that also needs to be disipated. My other concern is that placement of the IC in front of the radiator may also limit the opportunity to upgrade the radiator if that does in fact become necessary.
Any comments?
My concern is that with the power projections some of us have, it may be really pushing the envelope to expect the stock radiator to cope, especially if it has wamrer air entering because of the IC position. Say we are increasing power output by 100% +, we have roughly that much extra heat that also needs to be disipated. My other concern is that placement of the IC in front of the radiator may also limit the opportunity to upgrade the radiator if that does in fact become necessary.
Any comments?
A front mount tends not to be the best choice compaired to a v-mount, side mount (with good ducting) or a top mount. I liked the top mount of the stock design and went for the Lindsey Racing stage V intercooler, while the LR set up has some flaws like is thickness, it flows very well and there is no problems with the intercooler and radiator relationship. It also keeps the plumbing short compaired to a front mount. A front mount of equal core volume that is spaced off from the radiator will have better cooling but worse flow and more "lag". I also have tin ducting for my set up which helps alot.
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SFR's intercooler is perfect, mine will be slightly larger than his regular one and sit in front of the radiator.
By ducting the back of the radiator to a vent you create suction that helps pull air through the IC and rad. Plus the cores Tim uses for his ICs are designed for optimum flow through keeping the radiator in mind.
By ducting the back of the radiator to a vent you create suction that helps pull air through the IC and rad. Plus the cores Tim uses for his ICs are designed for optimum flow through keeping the radiator in mind.
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Originally Posted by guns951
SFR's intercooler is perfect, mine will be slightly larger than his regular one and sit in front of the radiator.
By ducting the back of the radiator to a vent you create suction that helps pull air through the IC and rad. Plus the cores Tim uses for his ICs are designed for optimum flow through keeping the radiator in mind.
By ducting the back of the radiator to a vent you create suction that helps pull air through the IC and rad. Plus the cores Tim uses for his ICs are designed for optimum flow through keeping the radiator in mind.
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I finally video taped a few tricks the new intercooler is capable of.........
Building boost at a standstill........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLH1aI3Wo4A
Building boost at a standstill........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLH1aI3Wo4A
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Originally Posted by TRP951
I see you are making ~10psi reving it. IIRC tedwrights car with the stage 2 turbo and full SFR 3" exhaust made like 7psi.
I have said this before.
Changing from stock to larger IC with a larger turbocharger will LOWER boost onset.
In other words, contrary to a lot of turkeys (some are even vendors)
You will get BETTER spoolup with a larger IC when you have a larger turbocharger on your 951.
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Originally Posted by special tool
That's right. I have said this before. Changing from stock to larger IC with a larger turbocharger will LOWER boost onset. In other words, contrary to a lot of turkeys (some are even vendors) you will get BETTER spoolup with a larger IC when you have a larger turbocharger on your 951. ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Originally Posted by special tool
That's right.
I have said this before.
Changing from stock to larger IC with a larger turbocharger will LOWER boost onset.
In other words, contrary to a lot of turkeys (some are even vendors)
You will get BETTER spoolup with a larger IC when you have a larger turbocharger on your 951.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I have said this before.
Changing from stock to larger IC with a larger turbocharger will LOWER boost onset.
In other words, contrary to a lot of turkeys (some are even vendors)
You will get BETTER spoolup with a larger IC when you have a larger turbocharger on your 951.
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Originally Posted by special tool
That's right.
I have said this before.
Changing from stock to larger IC with a larger turbocharger will LOWER boost onset.
In other words, contrary to a lot of turkeys (some are even vendors)
You will get BETTER spoolup with a larger IC when you have a larger turbocharger on your 951.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I have said this before.
Changing from stock to larger IC with a larger turbocharger will LOWER boost onset.
In other words, contrary to a lot of turkeys (some are even vendors)
You will get BETTER spoolup with a larger IC when you have a larger turbocharger on your 951.
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)