944T vs 3.2 brakes
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944T vs 3.2 brakes
This is a question for owners, past/present of (220hp) 944Ts and (pre-G50) Carrera 3.2s. I realise this question is subject to car condition but…
I own both cars I feel that the 944T has significantly better braking performance than my 3.2.
In top condition – which car has the better (stock) braking sytem?
I own both cars I feel that the 944T has significantly better braking performance than my 3.2.
In top condition – which car has the better (stock) braking sytem?
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I had both cars and I liked the braking on my 3.2 but it was a lighter car. I think the 951 has better calipers on the front. I haven't owned that 911 in 5 years so I can't remember what it had.
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On a street car, with street pads, the power assisted 951 will probably feel like it has the better brakes.
The 944T brakes are the newer and more advanced design. But the 911 is lighter and has a tremendous weight distribution advantage for braking (with the rear engine, it uses significantly more rear brakes than a 944 platform).
So on the track, with all things being equal (pads, tires, suspension setup, alignment, and driver), a 944T/S2 (non-M030) cannot outbrake a 911 (SC, 3.2, or 964). 944s with the 928S4 calipers can run with 911s in the braking zones, but still dont have a significant advantage.
The 944T brakes are the newer and more advanced design. But the 911 is lighter and has a tremendous weight distribution advantage for braking (with the rear engine, it uses significantly more rear brakes than a 944 platform).
So on the track, with all things being equal (pads, tires, suspension setup, alignment, and driver), a 944T/S2 (non-M030) cannot outbrake a 911 (SC, 3.2, or 964). 944s with the 928S4 calipers can run with 911s in the braking zones, but still dont have a significant advantage.
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Please scroll down to the section on brakes in this article.
I don't think anyone on Rennlist has the ***** to contadict Derrick Bell, do they???
http://www.puppan.se/951vs930.htm
And this is against a 930!!!! Not the lowly little 3.2.
I don't think anyone on Rennlist has the ***** to contadict Derrick Bell, do they???
http://www.puppan.se/951vs930.htm
And this is against a 930!!!! Not the lowly little 3.2.
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Originally Posted by toddk911
Do only the 951S have the 928S4 brakes? Or do late model Non S have them as well?
-Darwin
(Some of that was common knowledge...I know...)
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Originally Posted by special tool
Please scroll down to the section on brakes in this article.
I don't think anyone on Rennlist has the ***** to contadict Derrick Bell, do they???
http://www.puppan.se/951vs930.htm
And this is against a 930!!!! Not the lowly little 3.2.
I don't think anyone on Rennlist has the ***** to contadict Derrick Bell, do they???
http://www.puppan.se/951vs930.htm
And this is against a 930!!!! Not the lowly little 3.2.
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You can put 951 brakes on a 3.2 as an upgrade. The holes for the front calipers need to be machined a small amount and front brake lines need to be extended. I am having a brain block about the back. The 944 turbo calipers are superior in size 2 pot vs 4 pot, larger pads and less weight.
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Originally Posted by Olli Snellman
Also for MY '90 & '91
Also, is it just me or is the cam cover on that 951S in the article black?
-Darwin
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Originally Posted by special tool
Please scroll down to the section on brakes in this article. I don't think anyone on Rennlist has the ***** to contadict Derrick Bell, do they? And this is against a 930! Not the lowly little 3.2.
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Maybe he was talking about boost spike? I know all of my previous turbo cars would spike 2-3 PSI before setting down to the set boost level. IE Peak to 18 and settle to 15. Of course, that was with a MBC.