eospeed

You can get them from Ferrea for 65.00 ea custom

Tom M'Guinn

What motor is the 2.7 head going on? If its a turbo you probably want to use 951 exhaust valve (or some other heat-handling valve).

shaheed

attesting.......jason i don't see that you owe anybody anything here. you fixed the error before any money exchanged hands and posting private emails on a public forum is **** poor etiquette.

fortysixandtwo

Wow. I can't believe what I just read on page 2 of this thread. It's one thing to ask for a reduced price in a private conversation, I probably would have also. Heck, it doesn't hurt to ask. But to practically demand it by nagging him on a public forum.

tommo951

Stick it up your *** Shaheed, its none of your business.
As you will see I was continuing it in private emails, Jason decided he wanted to keep it public. I am sure your ettiquette is exemplary, bet you went to the best Swiss finishing schools...... NOT!

For the record he has not corrected the mistake either. It is now even more incorrect on his webiste. 2.7 Exhaust valve $128.00???? I dispair

tommo951

Fed up of being flamed!
I was continuing the conversation in private emails.
It was Jason that started posting excuses on here.
Firstly there was never a telephone call
Secondly read the email, I even double checked to find out if 2.7 inlets were bigger than 2.5. Jasons answer ..Yes sir, they are the same.
Having a feeling he was still wrong despite asking him twice and getting the same answer I posted the question on here.
Jason then read the posting when somebody suggested he had the valves and my reply saying that Jason swore blind that they were the same 2.7 or 2.5.
I emailed Jason to inform him of his error
He then posted directly here, twice.
If I had not posted here and just ordered the valves blindly Iwould have spent $240 on purchase probably $40 shipping and about $60 in import duty. All to receive the wrong items and have my project delayed
Sorry if anybody thinks I am being harsh here but the reason I would go to a company like Paragon is they are supposed to know their stuff and not rely on part numbers to reference.
I am not even in the parts field but I can tell you the bore stroke engine prefix valve size and many oither derivatives on any Jaguar post war car. I expect at least the same from a specialist. Thats why they can call themselves a specialist

Shall we leave it there?

tommo951

Hi tom,

Spot on mate, using sodium filled exhaust valves. Have sourced them

tommo951

Thanks mate, good to get a constructive reply!
I'll google it but do they have a website???

Cheers
Tom

tommo951

Last year I made a pricing mistake on a crankshaft, I read the figure wrong in the catalogue. Rather than even wind the client up at all I took the hit. About £5,000 worth of hit. Since then this client has spent just short of £300,000 with me and is still unaware of my initial mistake. I have made a damn site more than the £5,000 and even if I hadn't I could have held my head high.
Thats why I expect something from Jason. Treat as you would be treated. Mistakes happen, yes But they keep happening if you have no incentive to make good. That is good business practice. Its also how some of your most successful retailers in US base their business princiapls. Its called a loss leader

Just for the record if anybody would like to chack Paragon's website it is still incorrect. The exhaust valve on a 2.7 is the same size as a 2.5 but he is listing it seperately at $126.00 It is the inlet thatis different and it is still listed as a $28 item. I'll let you guys make your own minds up here

shaheed

i'll leave the sticking of things up the *** to you, you've already demonstrated in public you're an expert at that. it was none of my business until you decided to post private emails on a public board to try and blackmail paragon into giving you a big discount. as such i'll feel free to comment on your classless behaviour. if you don't like it find the nearest/tallest cliff and take a flying leap.

tommo951

till who posted???? Read, its good practice
And as for Blackmail, where was the threat? I merely gave Jason an opportunity to do what he said he wanted to do. Put the situation right!
Which for the record he still has not done, they are still displaying incorrect info

shaheed

i suggest you take your own advice and read the rennlist charter: "Further, no private communications can be posted publicly, without the permission of the party that send you that private e-mail/message". where did jason post private emails that you sent him?

tommo951

Oh dear I am a rennlist criminal!!!!

Jason @ Paragon Products

The Porsche PET shows the 2.7 uses Exhaust Valve 944.105.418.00 and that number is still good in Porsche inventory and has not been superceded. The NA 8V 2.5 944 uses 928.105.410.04 which is what we have on our site. My change yesterday was with regard to 928.105.410.04 to show 83-88 944 instead of 83-89. I made this change on the 2.5 Intake Valve as well.

PorscheDoc

Paragon's online site is not incorrect, but rather your information is incorrect.

If you take the time to look at PET, 944 2.5L and 2.7L valves are all different part numbers. While the 2.5L exhaust valves may fit the 2.7L head (I don't know where this information came from exactly, it may just be a bad rumor), according to Porsche, it is a different part number, therefore a different part.

So, here it is in simple terms.
944 2.5L Intake Valve: 928.105.409.02
944 2.5L Exhaust Valve: 928.105.410.04

944 2.7L Intake Valve: 944.105.409.03
944 2.7L Exhaust Valve: 944.105.418.00