Paragon front coil-over kit opinions?
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Would upgrading to the Turbo S torsion bars be good? Or would you recomend just going bigger with aftermarket?
I ask because I found a set of good condition 951S bars on ebay (don't anybody else steal them
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I ask because I found a set of good condition 951S bars on ebay (don't anybody else steal them
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
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Again, it comes down the nose-tail balance. The Turbo S torsion bar will balance with front spring maybe up to 200/250 lbs. If you snoop around the Paragon Tech Articles, I think there is a good piece on "calculating F/R effective spring rates". Worth reading before spending.
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For all the trouble it takes to replace/index the TB's on our cars, I'd go with something larger then Turbo S TB's. I believe they were only ~175#. Depending on your front rates, I'd go with something in the 27-30mm range.
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^^what he said...
18 year old used springs aren't on my big list of recycleable parts. And, you only want to do this job once. 27mm with your 250 front is a great setup. Bump up to 28mm if you like a loose rear (o). My favorite street setup is 300 front, 28mm rear. Those sway bars give you a little room to fine tune the whole setup no matter what, but 250 front and 25.5mm (951S) rear and that monster 28mm sway in front will be a little too pushy.
Good Luck!
18 year old used springs aren't on my big list of recycleable parts. And, you only want to do this job once. 27mm with your 250 front is a great setup. Bump up to 28mm if you like a loose rear (o). My favorite street setup is 300 front, 28mm rear. Those sway bars give you a little room to fine tune the whole setup no matter what, but 250 front and 25.5mm (951S) rear and that monster 28mm sway in front will be a little too pushy.
Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by billthe3
Looking at the parts the springs look like they are 250lbs (or at least have 250 written on the end of the springs).
I'm getting myself confused with suspension parts though - are torsion bars different from sway bars? The car already has a 28mm Weltmiester in the front and a 22mm Weltmiester in the rear. Would these be enough to help compensate for the increased understeer the coil-overs create?
I'm getting myself confused with suspension parts though - are torsion bars different from sway bars? The car already has a 28mm Weltmiester in the front and a 22mm Weltmiester in the rear. Would these be enough to help compensate for the increased understeer the coil-overs create?
Originally Posted by billthe3
On a side note: I really should get under the car to look at all this stuff myself - is there any special floor jack mount needed to lift the car or will the floor jack cup thing work fine with the sideskirts?
NOTE: use only the jack points or front sub frame frame and suspension members to lift the car. When you place jack stands under the car (and never go under the car with out them) place them under suspension or sub frame members. Jack stands will punch up through the floor boards.