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Old 05-27-2006, 06:23 PM
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I'll post pics tonight.
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Old 05-28-2006, 02:32 PM
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Our websever is down so I sent the pics to your email. Did you not get them?
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Old 05-29-2006, 12:46 PM
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Old 05-29-2006, 03:21 PM
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I was under the car yesterday cursing the amount of plumbing and extra crap which is required for PS and AC...

If my car was a track *****... but I don't feel like yanking on the wheel during city driving or sweating uncontrollably in the summer :x

Does a non-PS 951 steer like any other non-PS car from the same era? (I remember some old small trucks in which you had to spin the wheel like 10 times... but otherwise have had no experience with non-PS vehicles.)
Old 05-29-2006, 03:39 PM
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There was a thread about manual vs power last Oct. Can't seem to post the link, but do a search.
Old 05-29-2006, 08:55 PM
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Just FYI, he last 2 used manual rack setups I purchased (tierods, steering linkage, etc) were anywhere from ~$150-250.
Old 05-29-2006, 09:36 PM
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a non-ps 951 steers so much better than a ps 951 a little bit harder like parking aside from that it feels real good.
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Originally Posted by pstickne
I was under the car yesterday cursing the amount of plumbing and extra crap which is required for PS and AC...

If my car was a track *****... but I don't feel like yanking on the wheel during city driving or sweating uncontrollably in the summer :x

Does a non-PS 951 steer like any other non-PS car from the same era? (I remember some old small trucks in which you had to spin the wheel like 10 times... but otherwise have had no experience with non-PS vehicles.)
I just converted mine to manual. If I were to drive mainly on the street, I think I would opt for the power. For the track, the manual is great and I would highly recommend going manual for cars that are primarily track.

The first day on the track with the manual steering, my wrists got tired quickly. I moved my seat two inches closer, and did two more days with no problems at all. I'm ordering a one inch spacer for the steering wheel to move the wheel even closer to me, as I think the leverage helps.

Steering feedback is much better with the manual. I can feel the tires slipping quicker than I could with the power. Lock to lock requires more turns of the steering wheel with the manual, not a big deal, but I do have to shuffle steer a little in tight turns where I didn't have to move my hands with the power steering.

Hope that helps.

Oh, and not having to ever deal with leaks again....priceless!
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Originally Posted by shiners780
Oh, and not having to ever deal with leaks again....priceless!
that's the part that sold me. i replaced my rack and reservior about 2000 miles ago because it was leaking so bad. now i have 2 lines and the pump leaking pretty bad. there are still a few more lines i haven't replaced and i want to be done with this.

i have a good PS rack for sale in a few days if anyone is interested. rebuilt professionally and bone dry thus far.
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Originally Posted by 333pg333
Can those that have experienced both give an opinion on both? Is the manual much heavier at road speeds, parking etc? What are the advantages and disadvs?
If you're in second gear speeds, it isn't difficult at all. I prefer not to parallel park or such with it, but it is still manageable in parking lots. I AXed a PS 944, and I'm anxious to try mine.
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Originally Posted by yellowline
I prefer not to parallel park or such with it, but it is still manageable in parking lots.
You just have to slide it in there like Jake and Elwood. (That's from the Blues Brothers movie ... explained for the young 'ins here.)
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Wow Jim, that's pulling one out of the past.
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I would've picked up on that.

"I want to buy your children..." I've only seen one movie with John Belushi in it. The scene where he falls down the stairs in a kid's desk, and the restaurant scene, have sold me on his genius.


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