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Old 05-27-2006 | 06:04 AM
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Not true.

HP=TQ x RPM applies to the engine only.
Think again - the dyno measures power and torque at the rear wheels - nowhere else. It doesn't give a damn about whats driving the wheels.

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Old 05-27-2006 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tommye
Think again - the dyno measures power and torque at the rear wheels - nowhere else. It doesn't give a damn about whats driving the wheels.

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I did include this in the post:

The only way that formula works for determining rear wheel power is if you use the same gear each time effectively treating the gear ratio as a constant. Once you use a different gear, it's now a variable and must be factored.
The gear needs to be a factor as it changes the way torque is applied.
Old 05-27-2006 | 10:13 AM
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For the record, i read in the 911 & porsche world magazine that the ac compressor takes anything from 20-35Bhp.

And Chris White is right, the ac compressor doe not turn off at WOT
Old 05-27-2006 | 11:18 AM
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"Then why, in normally aspirated cars, they use the gear that is closest to 1:1?"

Less drive train/static loss.
Old 05-27-2006 | 11:20 AM
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"Regardless, Todd, you need new dyno operaor..."

So you are thinking the low numbers were mostly operator erors and not maybe way off tuning? That would certainly make me feel less worried
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Only one way to find out. Try a more experienced dyno operator that can map boost and AFR. Have them output a chart that has the HP and TQ on the Y-axis with the RPMs on the X-axis. Also, be sure to use 4th gear only.

I don't buy the "greater drivetrain loss" in different gears. Hogwash.
Old 05-27-2006 | 12:25 PM
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Daniel,
I think you are getting confused by the fact that the dyno shows a torque curve that looks like crank torque.
In fact, in 4:th gear, rear wheel torque (which is actually what is measured here) should be approximately 4 times higher than crank torque (due to the final gear ratio which is around 4:1).
The displayed torque curve is actually calculated and corresponds to something like crank torque reduced by drivetrain losses.

Not true.

HP=TQ x RPM applies to the engine only.
Now, how would you define rear wheel HP then if HP=TQxRPM is not true ??

Tommy



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