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Old 04-11-2006, 12:10 AM
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The engine will have a code of 52 stamped on it if it is an "S", vs 51 for a non-s. Those are not the Turbo S wheels, but the design 90's which were much more common on the S2s. The HP looks about right for a non S too, chipped and shimmed K26/6 235 at the wheels sounds right. I'd say the price is fair for a very nice non-S car with a lot of money put in to it!
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Looks damn good, and just in time for summer!
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Originally Posted by SD Porsche Fan
Probably an '88 S or '89 if those are the original wheels. That is a whole lot of car for the money given that it was well maintained. Very nice!
As JE_951 stated those are Design 90 wheels, not the forged alloys found on "S" models...they look somewhat similar though. As far as determining whether it's an "S" or not: it would have to be either an '88 or an '89. These years would be designated by a "J" or a "K" in the 10th position of the VIN, respectively. All '89's were built to "S" specs (although they weren't designated as such). If it's an '88 then I *believe* that you have to check the engine's serial number. 220 (217) HP cars (non-S) began with "45"; "S"'s with "47" -- but don't quote me on that.

If it were an "S" model and the PO was a Porsche mechanic, I'm pretty sure he would have mentioned it it....

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Old 04-11-2006, 01:31 AM
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Very nice. I could buy those extra rotors you have. A nice recaro would go perfect with those 5 pt harness belt.. Great buy
Old 04-11-2006, 01:40 AM
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cant you tell by the cross over pipe since it apears to be a one piece
Old 04-11-2006, 04:46 AM
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awesome, thanks for the info and good feedback! Ill check if it is a "S" tomorrow but i doubt it is. should the HP and torque have a darastic differeence like that? I always thought that they would be "about" equal until you got into the higher power range (>400hp).

Im still wondering about the powerchip, chip that it has. Are they anygood or should i change them?

Sry reno, the rotors are going to need replacing once i track it a few times so im going to keep them.
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btw, anyone have a set of recaro's or any type of race seats? reno brought up a good point!
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So what year is it?
Old 04-11-2006, 11:39 AM
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I thought PSS9 coil over kits were unavailable for our cars. Am i wrong ???
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Design 90's were on later 944 Turbos not imported to the USA. The 'S' wheels are forged Clubsports, similar looking, but the clubsport spokes join the rim smoothly where the D90's have a blob of casting material. D90s are commonly found on 944S2's.

As for the engine code, it's not that telling. The block code may indicate a Turbo S block but the head and turbo might not be S spec. The tag off the turbo would help. The crossover does appear to be an early design. It'd be interesting to see if the headers are early or late style (with the accordian to prevent cracking.)

Nice looking car! I'm sure you will have a lot of fun with it.
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The suspension isn't PSS9. You are correct, you cannot get PSS9 for the 944 series (unfortunately). You can do the regular Bilstein HD upgrade, or go with the Firehawk or Cup setup, as far as Bilstein goes.
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
As for the engine code, it's not that telling. The block code may indicate a Turbo S block but the head and turbo might not be S spec. The tag off the turbo would help. .
Well, then the tag off the turbo could be changed too, it's not that telling either. ANY Turbo S option could be fitted. The hardest things to change would be the block and the supports welded in on the frame rails. (or the VIN) It is obviously not an 86 (unless there are spacers behind those rims) or an 89. She's likely an 87 or 88, and not an S. The buyer was told it was NOT an S, I don't understand why there is any doubt.

Originally Posted by Jfrahm
The 'S' wheels are forged Clubsports, similar looking, but the clubsport spokes join the rim smoothly where the D90's have a blob of casting material.
While I'm at it, I would hardly call a 1/2" lip all the way around (of the rears) a blob of casting material.

And lastly, that appears to be the LATE design crossover pipe. The triangle shaped 3-bolt fitting that leads to the wastegate would not be there if it was an early design.
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I'm just curious why the car's model year isn't mentioned.

If it's not a "S", that's a lot of hp for just chips and shims.

And I agree it's the late crossover. Looks just like mine.
Old 04-11-2006, 03:52 PM
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Stock non-S turbos dyno in the 190's WHP, correct? This guy has 235 at the wheels. I see a 40Hp gain from chips, shimmed wastegate, and open exhaust. It sounds right on to me. Don't let that claim of 280 distract you, it is the WHP that counts.
Old 04-11-2006, 04:15 PM
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With two airbags, doesn't that hint at 1988 or later? -If not an 'S' spec then 1988 would be my guess, since 89's were all 'S' spec as I understand...

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