Low HP - TO4E
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Originally Posted by cpt_koolbeenz
Danno's chips are some of the best... regardless of his business practices.
This is not MY opinion. . . . it is the opinion of Rennlisters. Do a search in the archives and you will see what I mean.
biggles, if you have trouble uploading the chart then email it to me. I can post it up for you. trwright@gmail.com
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There are to many far fetched hp claims around hear. The compressor and turbine that your t04e has. Is not specified. Most bolt on 951 at 18 psi with to4e's make 300rwhp to 350rwhp. It depends what trim you have. Your rwhp may in fact be ok. If you can tell me exactly what turbo you have I can tell you where you should be. Good head work can improve those numbers by 30 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by aeronautica86
what mods do you have to get 260rwhp out of the stock turbo at only 14.5psi?
is it a 26/6 or 26/8?
is it a 26/6 or 26/8?
I have a mostly stock 87 944 turbo that ran 250rwhp and 275ft-lbs. The only mods I have is chips, Tial Wastegate, and Boost controller set at 15psi.
This is WITH the Catalytic converter, stock intake, and stock exhuast. Mine is the regular turbo, 26/6.
So I think 260 is easily reached with a cat-delete. I am sure mine would hit that, and maybe more if I got the cat out of there.
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"todd, an afm can do this but not as accuately, which means as safely, because it only measures flow and not desnity. Because a MAF can measure density it knows exactlyhow air there is and how much fuel to add.
I don't know about you but I would not want to keep turning up the boost if the ECU was only taking a good geuss how much air there is and adding around the right amount of fuel. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen."
AHHHH, ok, that is what I was looking for. And I completely agree with you Tms. Would want to be as accurate as possible.
Also, most of my family was born and raised in RI. Mom from Warwick and Dad from N. Kingstown.
Biggles: Vitesse is really at the forefront of chips and tuning. Talk with him first.
I don't know about you but I would not want to keep turning up the boost if the ECU was only taking a good geuss how much air there is and adding around the right amount of fuel. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen."
AHHHH, ok, that is what I was looking for. And I completely agree with you Tms. Would want to be as accurate as possible.
Also, most of my family was born and raised in RI. Mom from Warwick and Dad from N. Kingstown.
Biggles: Vitesse is really at the forefront of chips and tuning. Talk with him first.
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Snappy,
How do you know that Biggles turbo should make 360 rwhp ?
Knowing that the turbo has a #8 hotside witha .6 AR compressor
is no enough. It is what is inside that dictates the HP potential.
How do you know that Biggles turbo should make 360 rwhp ?
Knowing that the turbo has a #8 hotside witha .6 AR compressor
is no enough. It is what is inside that dictates the HP potential.
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On the turbo, it is actually a 50 trim. I do not want to knock Danno, because as an apprentice mechanic, the problem may lie with me. Will run some compression numbers tomorrow and post, hopefully with the graph.
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Well, I think regardless of the turbo specifics, with the MAF, 18psi and any style of TO4E, should be about 300 to the wheels, minimum.
I know Danno had dynos with AFM and the 18psi chips and K26/8 that were about 280-290 to the wheels.
I would assume you have some other issue.
I know Danno had dynos with AFM and the 18psi chips and K26/8 that were about 280-290 to the wheels.
I would assume you have some other issue.
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jchen. look at his add ons. does look at least that some thought had gone into it. all the right parts for adding more air and fuel. the car should produce way more than that. 330 should be his low end and 360 his high. 50 trim makes even a better match-up than the .60. me I prefer the 57 trim around those higher psi settings. he should do a leak-down to check what is the state of the engine before he even gets into tuning it. I compared some of danno's v8 chips to about 6 different chips we had access to. and his ran by far the smoothest. "Note that I did not have access to a set form Vitesse".
Bad batch - bad match, anything could be, but from all the dealing I had with him i was not burned.
biggles, how do you know the chips are V9's from guru.?
see if you have access to another set of gauges from a friend to check the boost levels and a/f levels. also did you capture boost on the dyno run?
Bad batch - bad match, anything could be, but from all the dealing I had with him i was not burned.
biggles, how do you know the chips are V9's from guru.?
see if you have access to another set of gauges from a friend to check the boost levels and a/f levels. also did you capture boost on the dyno run?
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maps seems to say different, with stg3 small clip; at 18-22psi
I have both brand new - though - will try them out.
should add that the 300rmp lag difference I am aiming for between the two is what makes me lean towards the .57 for the added oomph.
interestingly they seem to weigh the same. which definitely helps out on reducing lag between the two. from the info i found so far - there should be no problem with surge at all using the 57 trim.
I have both brand new - though - will try them out.
should add that the 300rmp lag difference I am aiming for between the two is what makes me lean towards the .57 for the added oomph.
interestingly they seem to weigh the same. which definitely helps out on reducing lag between the two. from the info i found so far - there should be no problem with surge at all using the 57 trim.
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