gcb951

Guys,
I've been doing the bike thing now for over 12 yrs. I have had dirt bikes that can beat most high end cars to 60mph. Any modern super bike of 600CCs or more is a no contest to 150mph against almost any car. It's really apples VS oranges. You can't really compare the two. My last bike was a Yamaha R1 and I would have been confident that I would be able to take any brand new Viper or other high end car of today's world. But, when you race a I guy on a bike you won't be racing his machine, rather his ability. It gets scary at 150+mph on two wheels. If someone on a bike doesn't mind putting there life at risk to show up a sporty car then he will hit the gas, hold it open, and you will never see them again. However, I don't recommend that at all as I sold the R1 because of a brush with death at over 160mph on a public road here in Glen Spey NY. Bottom line is, newer sport bikes of 600cc or more, given a skillful or crazy rider, will whoop up on any car, almost evertime. I would stick to racing guys in cars anyway. You don't want to get one of those crazy riders to start racing you only to have them lose it at 130mph, two car lengths ahead of you, and you end up running them over. Give the guy with the bike plenty of room, they're nuts just for riding them.

hosrom_951

One Camel + One Hosrom = greater weight to HP ratio

Still have you're money on the bike John?



And don't forget the camel is better on the sand!!!

fast951

It depends if the surface is sand or not..

Mike S

Wanna know how fast you need to go. Here's a link to the performance numbers of most of the newer bikes. Notice how they're all in the 10's now. Good luck getting a 951 in the 10's.

http://sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums/

AlexE

Uhmmmm take a look at those 80-100 numbers (must be top gear?) ........... those would be doable?

ANyone have stats like these on Harley davidson?

special tool

UUUHHHH - I am staying out - bikes are fast.

I will tell you that I will rip the *** out of any of those bikes above (high boost) in 80-100 times - some by 50%.......Those times are surprising.
My car takes about 1.5 seconds 80-100 in fourth with the S2 box.

danny951

See that's good to hear, ST. If you put them together and get a 60-100 time, the Ninja that this guy has is listed at around 6.43 seconds. I know a Vitesse Stg II or III car with 3" exhaust and in good shape is going to get better times than 6.43 seconds from 60-100. Anyone have stock 951 numbers for 60-100mph?

Mike S

Stat's on Harley Davidson? Bah ha haa haaaaa...that's a good one. Yeah, I have stats.

All models = dog slow, faster in reverse possibly.

80-100 times I can see, but 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are not realistic in my opinion even with an extreme case such as special tool's car. The other factor is rider ability and most newbie riders couldn't shift their way out of a shopping cart much less put down a solid 1/4 mile time.

Mike S

Also, keep in mind that those 80-100mph times are in top gear (6th). They'd be a hell of a lot quicker in the right gear (4th?).

danny951

where do you see that it's in top gear?

special tool

Danny - 6.43 seconds????????? Are you sure? Those things are fast, man.
I think that, and the times in the link above are starting the stopwatch BEFORE the throttle is twist......

Mike S

That's standard in all bike mags. They didn't publish it, but I've never seen anyone do a roll on in anything but top gear for bikes.

If you look at the bottom of this page you'll see the gear listed as 6th for the roll-on test.

http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_0203_int/

special tool

By the way....where is Dana - someone must have killed his *** for him not to be in this thread yet.

lart951

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Camels?????????? So what happened to your favorite donkey?

special tool

That's one of your all-time bests, dude.....