Notices
944 Turbo and Turbo-S Forum 1982-1991
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Clore Automotive
View Poll Results: Wich one should i get
Falken
1
5.26%
Toyo
18
94.74%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

Tire Choice, need your 2cents

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-11-2005 | 05:18 PM
  #16  
gmsracing's Avatar
gmsracing
Pro
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 631
Likes: 4
From: Timnath, CO
Default

I run Yoko A032R's on my GTI for street/track and I LOVE them. The grip like crazy on the street and they have great wet weather performance. I've even driven them in a light snow w/o any problems. My next tires for the 951 will be A032Rs if they are available.
Old 05-11-2005 | 05:20 PM
  #17  
Matt H's Avatar
Matt H
Race Director
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 15,712
Likes: 3
Default

A032R in the snow, I suppose anything is possible once. I acutally like the A032R but they are jet engine loud. Seriously, incredibly loud. I cant imagine them on a long trip.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
Old 05-11-2005 | 06:05 PM
  #18  
cantresjr's Avatar
cantresjr
Thread Starter
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
From: Miami, FL & Puerto Rico
Default

Originally Posted by pikey7
The extra inch will stop your ABS working too........
If you have an extra inch in one tire and not on the other, then the ABS will stop working. anyways my ABS does not work.

i had 032's on a turbo '84 GTI and never had issues in the rain, until they were very worn out, of course i didn't drive like a maniac either.

so noise, wear etc about D.O.T legal track tires is not an issue with me. i just can't buy two sets of tires right now( track/ street)

the only street tire i cosidered was the kumho MX. price was comparable and i had used them in the track in a G35 and was impresed. but can't seem to find them anywhere.
Old 05-11-2005 | 06:12 PM
  #19  
cantresjr's Avatar
cantresjr
Thread Starter
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
From: Miami, FL & Puerto Rico
Default

http://www.falkentire.com/615micro.htm

maybe this will help
Old 05-11-2005 | 06:46 PM
  #20  
streckfu's's Avatar
streckfu's
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 77,321
Likes: 668
Default

I didn't know Falken was owned by Sumitomo. Learn something new every day....
Old 05-11-2005 | 06:48 PM
  #21  
Matt H's Avatar
Matt H
Race Director
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 15,712
Likes: 3
Default

And Ohtsu as well.

Toyo = Nitto since we are on the subject.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
Old 05-11-2005 | 08:48 PM
  #22  
Evan70's Avatar
Evan70
Pro
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
From: Dallas
Default

I only have two problems with the A032:
1) they howl like a banshee
2) they turn into rocks as they get heat cycles on them
The howling problem is probably worse on wider sizes as I didn't remember that much of a problem when I ran them on my 86 951, but they were horrible in 275s on one of my Firebirds. Of course, I didn't run them long on the 86 before holing a piston and getting rid of the car, so maybe I'm just not remembering how much they howled on it.

I didn't realize Sumitomo owned Falken, but it's not suprising. There really aren't that many tire companies out there:
Firestone is a division of Bridgestone
Nitto is a division of Toyo
Falken is a divisio of Sumitomo
It seems like Dunlop is either owned or owns one of the other major brands.
Old 05-11-2005 | 10:05 PM
  #23  
JDeitz951's Avatar
JDeitz951
Addict
Rennlist
Lifetime Member

 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 901
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey Shore
Default

I just got these from Tire Rack.

Brand: Kumho ECSTA MX

Front: Size: 225/45ZR17 (diam=25.0) $135 ea Weight: 22.3 lbs Width (unmounted): 9.37”

Rear: Size: 245/40ZR17 (diam=24.7) $142 ea Weight: 23.5 lbs Width (unmounted): 10.12”

No track time yet but very good grip on the twisty roads and good in the rain. Better than RE730s they replaced.
Old 05-12-2005 | 11:27 AM
  #24  
GaryK's Avatar
GaryK
Racer
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Colorado
Default

Previously, I used the Kumho MX for the street and the Toyo RA1 on the track. Now I have the Falken RT-615 on the rear and some older RT-215 on the front. I'm now down to one set of wheels and not planning to track the car much now, but wanted a sticky street tire I could take to the track on occasion. And wet weather is not much of a concern here.

The RA1 is a great tire, perfect if you're going to drive to/from the track...very streetable and very predictable on the track. The MX works well on the street (at least in the dry), but actually was harsher and noisier than the RA1. I can't give a fair comparsion of the Falkens since I've moved up to 245/45 and 275/40 (17s), but they seem very stiff and harsh, even more so than the MXs, but stick like glue. The rear of the car has never felt so well planted. Falken claims the RT-615 is supposed to hold up better than the RT-215 (which was primarily an autocross tire) on the track, but I'll have to wait until I replace my fronts to judge that.

For a strictly street tire, I don't think you can get much better than the Bridgestone S-03, particularly if wet weather is a concern, but they are expensive (and very poor on the track).

Oh, and I think Sumitomo owns Dunlop as well.
Old 05-12-2005 | 03:27 PM
  #25  
Mike Buck's Avatar
Mike Buck
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,131
Likes: 22
From: Churchville, MD
Default

Originally Posted by gmsracing
I run Yoko A032R's on my GTI for street/track and I LOVE them. The grip like crazy on the street and they have great wet weather performance. I've even driven them in a light snow w/o any problems. My next tires for the 951 will be A032Rs if they are available.

If you think the A032R's grip like crazy, try another brand of R-tire and prepare to be shocked. The Yoko's are nothing but bricks compared to a RA-1 or MPSC. Michelins don't howl like the Yoko's either. See recent thread's in Racing forum.

I'd get Toyo T1-S for a 75% street/ 25% track car.
Old 05-12-2005 | 11:49 PM
  #26  
Matt H's Avatar
Matt H
Race Director
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 15,712
Likes: 3
Default

Firestone is a division of Bridgestone
Not exactly true, they are both brands are part of the Bridgestone Corporation as are Dayton, Fuzion, Lemans, and a host of others
Nitto is a division of Toyo
Yes.
Falken is a divisio of Sumitomo
Yes.
It seems like Dunlop is either owned or owns one of the other major brands.
Dunlop is owned by Goodyear as is Kelly, Continental, and an even larger host of smaller brands.
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
Old 05-12-2005 | 11:56 PM
  #27  
TRWright's Avatar
TRWright
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,619
Likes: 0
From: Houston
Default

I have toyo proxy-4's, they are okay. Good street tire, but after running a few de's with pilot sport cups, I consider the proxy-4's pretty much a street-only tire.
Old 05-13-2005 | 02:53 AM
  #28  
michaelathome's Avatar
michaelathome
Race Car
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,458
Likes: 5
From: Chantilly VA
Default

Sorry I guess that I am not understanding something straight as far as this thread is going.

Why wouldn't you go with:

1. Michelin Pilot Sport
2. Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
3. Yokohama AVS Sport

You have spent a pretty $ to buy your car why not give it some good shoes?

In my past experience:

Goodyear tends to be hard, work them and they fail/get thin quick, they focus on AT all the way.
Yoko's tend to be soft, not a daily if you want to avoid flats and punctures. Lots of traction dry.
*Mich is somewhere in between. Yes they are pricy but IMO well worth their cost. Never a flat, got 35K road miles out of them.
Falcon's I would avoid if you want them on as any type of daily soft and sloppy side walls.
Hoosiers, well they are racing tires. You know that they sweep the track before races right? Sometimes.
Pirellis are soft on the wall to. Good thing I bought the warranty when I got those.

I would put a decent goodyear back on my truck and a Mich back on the p-car. Mich goes on the Toyota next as well.

I can say that my car has Mich MXV 4's on it but they were purchased before I bought it. If you are spending the money on the good stuff for the rest of the car why stop there?

Michael
Old 05-13-2005 | 09:38 AM
  #29  
cantresjr's Avatar
cantresjr
Thread Starter
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
From: Miami, FL & Puerto Rico
Default

Originally Posted by michaelathome
Sorry I guess that I am not understanding something straight as far as this thread is going.

Why wouldn't you go with:

1. Michelin Pilot Sport
2. Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
3. Yokohama AVS Sport

You have spent a pretty $ to buy your car why not give it some good shoes?
Michael
Of your three choices the yoko's is what i'm running now and they are ok but they seem to harden and lose traction with time. the others i've heard great things about.

Don't knock other brands because they are not high profile brands or the prices are lower, you would be amazed

also my divorce is killing me financially
Old 05-13-2005 | 10:11 AM
  #30  
michaelathome's Avatar
michaelathome
Race Car
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,458
Likes: 5
From: Chantilly VA
Default

Oh, I forgot to mention:

BFG Comp TA's which also seemed firm in the sidewalls but lacking in normal good daily drivability, better than a lot of others though for normal daily use.
Bridgestone Potenzas, good dry, so/so wet but prone to sidewall damage and leaks from who knows where.

"Pirellis are soft on the wall to. Good thing I bought the warranty when I got those." I have never driven P Zero's so I can't really say anything about them.

I have ridden on a lot of tires in several types of cars. I would not put Goodyear Wranglers on my Alfa, nor would I put Mich Pilots Sports on my F150 4x4.

It sounds like you are trying to find a tire to fit your needs, better to ask then waste your $.

I didn't know that Yoko AVS's got harder with use. I realize that tire compounds will change with age but maybe I was just wearing mine out too fast.

I am not trying to knock other brands but, trying to share my experiences with the different brands/types that I have ridden on.


Michael


Quick Reply: Tire Choice, need your 2cents



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:02 AM.