flash968

C2 Turbo REPLICAS / SO-3S / CAPS for sale now

my new wheels will be done on the 20th

my Mille Miglia 17" C2 Turbo replicas are now available - the are 17x9 with a 47mm ET, and 17x7.5 with a 52mm ET - they are extremely clean inside and out

they also come with painted crest center caps

they come with 225/45/17 and 255/40/17 Bridgestone S0-3s - lots of tread left - very even wear

new cost is 172 ea for the front tires, 224 ea for the rear, 209 ea for the front rims 229 ea for the rear, and 160 for the caps if you're lucky - that's a total of 1828 - on top of that 3 of the 4 tires have road hazard warranties (i never bought it for the one tire which was replaced a week after i got it due to a screw in the sidewall) - you get the mounting and balancing for free! $2000 total value

NO, i won't be breaking up the set in any way

the first $1000 takes them all - you pay shipping

pics available

email to:flash@9magazine.com

Judson951

A little pricey if you ask me...

lart951

Replicas are not worth that much since they are heavy.

flash968

they are only about a pound heavier than the original Cup 1s, because of the extra offset, and they are made by the same company - with the wider stance though you get better cornering, and a much more aggressive look

Cup 2s are lighter than either one

these are immaculate - clean inside and out - no dings, road rash or anything - it is also a complete package including great tires with good tread and painted metal center caps

KuHL 951

Just as a reference, I sold the same set in triple-chrome with 75% tires for $600. The MM's are quite a bit heavier...my 17x9 w/255/40 were 53 lb each.

flash968

they are all MMs, including the originals - porsche had them make them for them - porsche makes very little themselves - the "replicas" are only heavier because of the extra offset, which meant an extra 1/2" of material, hence why they fill out the wheel wells better

53lbs is about right - if you check the tire rack site for tire weights and then check the wheel weight chart here, you will find that the "replicas" are only about a pound heavier than the "original" version

what shape were your rims in? painted center caps? S0-3s? maybe you sold them too cheaply

these are like new - not even any dirt on them

KuHL 951

Mine were in triple-chrome with caps. They were in near perfect condition, caps, 8 months old and sold to a fellow Rennlister. Mine were for an 86 offset hence they had the built in spacers which probably added a pound or two. They were the MM 993 Cups, the Cup 1's might be a bit different. Your tires are better than the Kunho Ecsta's I had. Yeah I sold them cheaper than I should have but I already had the new CCW's and needed the space. I would think yours will sell somewhere in the middle of my price and yours. Good Luck with the sale.

flash968

since retail new on the package is 2 grand, i'm not too worried - i figured to get a lot of grief from some of the 944 guys though - if you're starting with a $5000 car, $1000 for wheels seem like a lot - on the other hand, with my car in the upper 20s and over 30k in mods, that's peanuts - the wheels being made for the car right now retail at nearly 6 grand and the tires alone are $1100

i guess it's all perspective - no worries

aixgelo78

see, thats not right. If you pay 5k in mods and spend 25k in labor to instal it and still be slower than a 951 with a maf kit. Maybe that car is not worth even close to 20+. Its all prespective, especially when I would rather buy from a humble owner than an owner who is a full of himself.

regards
chris

ill pass on the rims

flash968

that's not what i meant - i've been in that spot, and made similar decisions for the same reasons - what i meant was you have to look at what you are working with to determine what you are willing to spend on it - in the case of a $5000 car, it probably isn't logical to spend $1000 on tires and wheels unless you were really trying to do something special with that particular car

in my case, i didn't care what i spent on this particular project (by the way, it's a 968 cab show car)- i budgeted 60k for it and will likely sail past it - and not that much of it is on labor - doesn't matter - it's fun

as for it being slower, i guess that's relative - the car is pretty quick now on a road course, which is what it is set up for

shmark

flash, got any pics of that 968? I for one would love to see it. That's not too bad a price considering the tires, if they are in excellent shape.

lart951

$ 60k for a 968 cab?, come on man maybe a 968 turbo s conversion. But you can buy a concourse 968 cab with less than 50k miles for under $ 30k

flash968

yeah - not everybody would do this for sure - kind of just spun that way - the paint job was 8 grand - the seats are 3 - the tires and wheels are 6600 - it adds up in a hurry

i wasn't looking for a concours car in the end - i was looking to see what i could do with the car, and develop it to its potential in all areas - it just ended up that i am showing it because of how well it came out

a photo shoot is scheduled for the 23rd and then another about a week later for a cover

flash968

update on tread - new was 5/16"

rear is at 60% (3/16) - flat across

front is at 75% - 7/32" at the left and right - 1/4" at the center

Skip Wolfe

I was under the impression that the factory wheels were forged and the MM's were cast hence the weight difference. Offset has zero difference on weight - purely a geometry issue and has nothing to do with extra material - just where the center section mounts to the hoop. If the wheels were wider your material arguement might make sense. I paid $800 for a set of brand new MM twists with brand new BFGR1's (seller wrecked his car before he could mount them) and $1400 for a set of Fikse FM10's with 2 sets of scrubbed Hoosiers, so I would agree that $1,000 might be a bit optimistic - although the painted centers might count for some. Nothing to do with your $5,000 car theory, just free market value. If I can get the same thing for couple hundred less by being patient why would I buy yours?