Fine-Tuning Idle and Cruising
#16
As long as you don't have a CAT and aren't worried about emissions, & don't have
a check engine light, disconnecting the O2 sensor has the following benefits:
1. generally a smoother idle
2. a little better throttle response
3. can run a little lower AFR for a little better performance
This is the case for stock chips.
a check engine light, disconnecting the O2 sensor has the following benefits:
1. generally a smoother idle
2. a little better throttle response
3. can run a little lower AFR for a little better performance
This is the case for stock chips.
#17
And if you live in a cold climate and follow the above advice, you will NEVER start your car without cleaning your plugs everytime.
I have my idle at 19:1 right now. My lambda is connected and working perfectly. The Motronic can only keep you at 14.7 in closed loo[p if you are within a certain range. Once I bring it down to aboput 16, the Motronic locks on and brings it to 14.7. My car idles perfectly at 19, and is VERY clean.
Fact, not fiction.
I have my idle at 19:1 right now. My lambda is connected and working perfectly. The Motronic can only keep you at 14.7 in closed loo[p if you are within a certain range. Once I bring it down to aboput 16, the Motronic locks on and brings it to 14.7. My car idles perfectly at 19, and is VERY clean.
Fact, not fiction.
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Originally Posted by special tool
I have my idle at 19:1 right now. My lambda is connected and working perfectly. The Motronic can only keep you at 14.7 in closed loo[p if you are within a certain range. Once I bring it down to aboput 16, the Motronic locks on and brings it to 14.7. My car idles perfectly at 19, and is VERY clean.
I never thought of that, How low do you have to go before the motronic wont, cant bring it back up ??
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That's what I mean- when I lessen the injector duty cycle at idle to a point leaner than around 16:1, the Motronic drops it and can no longer bring it to 14.
My car likes to be around 18 (when it is warm)
SO, when I sart the car, thge lambda will put it at 12 for cold (I have watched this on wideband), then when the lambda comes on, it goes right to 18:1.
I never have a problem at cold start because by the time the lambda comes on, everything before it (head) is warm enough to run at 18:1.
My car likes to be around 18 (when it is warm)
SO, when I sart the car, thge lambda will put it at 12 for cold (I have watched this on wideband), then when the lambda comes on, it goes right to 18:1.
I never have a problem at cold start because by the time the lambda comes on, everything before it (head) is warm enough to run at 18:1.
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So don't disconnect the O2???
I think this is where the discussion was at a long time ago. Some say yes, some say no
I think this is where the discussion was at a long time ago. Some say yes, some say no
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"SO, when I sart the car, thge lambda will put it at 12 for cold"
Lambda doesn't function when it's cold. The water temp sensor must get below
a certain value before the system goes closed loop.
So:
1. when cold, O2 sensor connected/disconnected is a "don't care"
2. when warm, running depends on CO setting (AFRs) without the O2 sensor
3. when at WOT, "don't care" about O2 sensor
Bottomline: Well adjusted DME fuel maps or AFM setting and no CAT,
and a disconnected O2 sensor is not a problem (except for emissions),
and might provide better performance.
Lambda doesn't function when it's cold. The water temp sensor must get below
a certain value before the system goes closed loop.
So:
1. when cold, O2 sensor connected/disconnected is a "don't care"
2. when warm, running depends on CO setting (AFRs) without the O2 sensor
3. when at WOT, "don't care" about O2 sensor
Bottomline: Well adjusted DME fuel maps or AFM setting and no CAT,
and a disconnected O2 sensor is not a problem (except for emissions),
and might provide better performance.
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Originally Posted by special tool
That's what I mean- when I lessen the injector duty cycle at idle to a point leaner than around 16:1, the Motronic drops it and can no longer bring it to 14.
My car likes to be around 18 (when it is warm)
My car likes to be around 18 (when it is warm)
in the VAF without messing up the rest of the maps?
Or should I try to take the idle map down in the EPROM ?
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The result so far:
Stock K26/6 running ± 14.7 psi with ReliaBoost
Lindsey Racing dual port wastegate
Delphi 65lbs/hr injectors with ballast resistors
Stock exhaust without the cat
Pro-M Maf with PowerPerfect fuel controller (NOT SMT6 PerfectPower)
Guru Racing chips
This month I will put the LR 3” exhaust back on and head for a dyno.
Stock K26/6 running ± 14.7 psi with ReliaBoost
Lindsey Racing dual port wastegate
Delphi 65lbs/hr injectors with ballast resistors
Stock exhaust without the cat
Pro-M Maf with PowerPerfect fuel controller (NOT SMT6 PerfectPower)
Guru Racing chips
This month I will put the LR 3” exhaust back on and head for a dyno.
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Todd, if you car runs better with the O2 unplugged, find out whats wrong and fix it!
PS Frank, you get too rich too quickly in the lower rpms. That will be effecting spool...
PS Frank, you get too rich too quickly in the lower rpms. That will be effecting spool...
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Originally Posted by NZ951
Todd, if you car runs better with the O2 unplugged, find out whats wrong and fix it!
PS Frank, you get too rich too quickly in the lower rpms. That will be effecting spool...
PS Frank, you get too rich too quickly in the lower rpms. That will be effecting spool...
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Originally Posted by toddk911
Actually I have never run without it. Just curious to know the pros/cons in running with out one.