Gator_86_951

I don't think you have to have a credible reason to DNF. I am pretty sure either toyota or honda stopped on the last lap when they didn't get in the points.

Ok just looked at the results. Both BAR-Honda drivers DNF, Sato and Button.

gmsracing

That's right. Both BAR drivers pulled out of the race intentially becaue they were out of the points! That way they get a fresh motor for the next event. I love F1, but they have to find some stability here soon or it will be a CART/Indy car fiasco all over again.

As for Fisi- I'm glad he finally got a good car. He's a great driver.

M758

Well,
The one engine per two weekend rule is really dumb. I can understand one engine for the weekend. Even so I'd rather see the teams run one engine for race and qualfying and be allow other for practice sessions. I will be going to the F1 Race at Indy and want to see the cars on track. These engine rules do not encourage teams to run in practice.

Also I still hate the single lap qualfying. Even in two sessions. It is plain dumb mostly due to weather. Sure they do it in NASACAR, but hell if it rains they don't run so evens things out.

It put MS at the back given he had is first qual run in the downpour. So does this mean Ferrari is dead for 2005? Heck now. I still don't know which teams are stong and which are weak.

It appears that Renault are strong, but how much was due to the strength vs advantage of good qualfying. Same for all the rest. Simply the qualfing order was screwed up and that only partially fixed itself in the final results.

I guess we will need to wait till round 2.

As for the engine replacement rule. Well it is really stupid, but very smart of Ferrari and BAR to DNF to get new engines. When I saw MS pull in to the pits I just laughed at the FIA rules makers. Yet another stupid loop hole on stupid rule making a mockery of the sport. I don't blame the teams at all for taking advantge of such stupid rules.

Kool

They tell you that all these rules are done to control costs.

But isn't the appeal for F1 that it is the pinacle of automotive design and innovation. How can you limit costs and still be innovative and on the cutting edge of design.

I agree that the 1 engine 2 race rule is silly because now if you aren't in the points there isn't much point in finishing. So you end up with maybe 9 or 10 cars finishing.

If you go to Speedtv.com and read the F1 news archives you can get a pretty good insoght into what is going on in the sport. I never quite realized the amount of politics that go on. You could spend a day reading about all the Drama and controversy.

MPD47

Last I checked 15th isnt points, IIRC.

Kool

I am pretty sure that the last point paying spot is 8th. I might be wrong

AL951

Well guys I have to disagree

I think the one engine for two races is a great! and the one tire per races is good too.
See right now it looks like the sport is going backwards, But in practice the new rules are going to pushthe engineers to look to new ways to make does engine powerful and durable, and to find new tire conpound that is both durable and alot of grip. That is all good news for us!...because this technology will eventually be on road cars that you I can buy. That is why is call FORMULA 1, because it is a formula of technical challenges for the drivetrain, chassis, and driver and the team that finds the best solution to this formula will produce a winner. And I think that is what competitions is all about.

Kool

Ok AL

I see your point. In regards to the technical aspect (my argument) you are correct they are having to innovate in order to meet the new rules.

And if Melbourne is to be used as an example the new rules have gone a long way to make the sport unpredictable.

So is there an argument then that the new rules have merely shifted costs from component(engines, tires) back into development? I suppose the teams are the only people who know the answer to that.

AL951

You are correct Kool. I dont think this new rule are going to reduce cost at all.

MPD47

You're right, I was just pointing out how wrong Pole Position was.

Kool

So what is the point?

AL951

I think the FIA wants new F1 heros

Kool

But Ferrari( I am asuming you are talking about Schuey and the Scuderia) and Jean Todt are the only team standing with the FIA. As far as the GPWC vs. FIA is concerned.

How can that be true?

Kool

This article about sums up my opinion on the whole thing.

Kool

Hey I broke 700 posts.