CPTdooberhead

I'm going to have to call bull**** on that one. You would need bigger injectors than #55 first off to make 400rwhp. Second... you would need to run 22-24psi (assuming you have a .50AR or so on that T04E).
For a street setup, TonyG is the only one I know of who made that kind of power on a 2.5L... and he didn't just have a MAP and a turbo...

-Randy

special tool

I made 405 RWHP wth stoc EVERYTHNHG. Ya gots ta have the right turbo, timing and MAF calibration!!!

emwporsche

you guys are expecting too much power.
especially at that boost level.

maf + chips + turbo + fpr + EXHAUST + tial + 55 lb @ 18-20 psi

will get you to about 310 - 335 rwhp (a lot depends on the turbo)

that is just my experience.
I had the 27/6, I personally loved it for a street car.
Now that it sucked in rubber and killed the trim
I bought a t04E/6 with a .50 trim from rob off rennlist
(I think it should have a little more aggressive top end)
but my tuning was so poor I couldn't tell
(It's in the shop getting fixed and tuned)
when it get's back I will be going to the dyno

I have all the above mention things + vittesse (instead of weltmeister chips) + t04E/6 + A/C delete
I'm hoping for the same amount of power at lower boost.

I try to be realistic about the power it makes and each time I go, and I am never disappointed.

daniel951

with really high psi levels

emwporsche
you guys are expecting too much power.
especially at that boost level.

maf + chips + turbo + fpr + EXHAUST + tial + 55 lb @ 18-20 psi

will get you to about 310 - 335 rwhp (a lot depends on the turbo)

I will be close to 400rwhp at those levels

daniel951

unless he is going to be running a bigger pump that might help but he might need to upgrade those #55 though to something like #75

emwporsche

as I recall you just rebuilt your engine, you have 75 lb injectors, msd ignition, and headers or cross overpipe?
they aslo are wanting a bolt on turbo, If I remember right your's isn't
a 60-1 could surely get them there but it doesn't really just bolt on
and I am assuming they want pump fuel with their 16 psi




I just don't want all these guys to spend a ton of money and end up all pissed off about only getting 300 rwhp

daniel951

its a 60-1 hifi and it bolted right up? i thought they all did? It wasn't a full rebuild but it had rings belts seals etc...rod bearings buti didn't replace the pistons.

Edman951

Mercedesben,
For that T3/T4E 57 trim to be bolt on.
They have to sell you the turbo with a replica KKK housing.
A standard T3 flange is not the same as the KKK.

And if they do sell it with a kkk housing. Make sure its a stage 3 wheel. Thats what most people run.

And since you are buying new. I suggest a 50 trim.
Its got better low end and better top end compared to the 57 trim. Compare the data on the map for yourself and see.
http://not2fast.wryday.com/turbo/maps/

emwporsche

I didn't realize the 60-1 did!
I probabley would have purchased one myself, knowing that.

dougoh

here is my email from Danno....yes, I can map a chip for using the stock AFM. It will be similar to
a K27/8 at under 21psi. Which is the most the K27/8 is good for,
about 325rwhp with stock AFM, 360rwhp with MAP upgrade. The TO4E can
go up to 25psi for 360-370rwhp with AFM and around 400rwhp with MAP.

daniel951

That makes sense. just not to sure about the stock air box thing

special tool

Daniel - yes it was 23 psi but don't forget - I don't bull**** like a lot of kiddies on ths site. Hell - there is one full of **** guy on here who said he made 375 RWHP at 15 PSI with a STOCK head.

So you made 360 at 17 psi? Why didn't you turn it up and make more power for a high number?

hosrom_951

I was being quiet about this, but Edman is corect.....

In order for the T3 turbine to fit, you'd need flanges. Even then, i'm not sure if the turbine housing is too big, too small on this one.

Secondly, im pretty certain (but not sure) that it is only oil lubricated and not water cooled, which shouldn't be a problem if you mod you cooling system.

Thirdly, the map for the 57 trim doesn't seem's quite nice (if i read it correctly).



Dude, im sorry but i hope that e-mail is paraphrased and not directly quoted, it's just not nice .

Secondly, it's probably a #65 set of injectors not #55, are you sure about the injector sizes? double check on that, here is a general webiste for calculating injectors:

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/TechSer...l/Artcl07.html



The 60-1 HiFi with #8 stage 3 wheel, or the T04E Super 50 with #8 stage 3 wheel, or you could even contact the turbocharger experts for our cars (Vitesse, Lindsey Racing and/or Speed Force Racing) and tell them your needs. They would also advise you and what else is needed to make the most from that turbocharger.

On thing you never mentioned is the way the turbocharger 'kicks' with regards to future upgrades. In other words, if you plan on doing some headwork, the #8 hotside would be a better option. If you are driving the car on the street and no plans for any upgrades with regards to the engine mechanically, then the #6 would be better, but get some custom work with the turbocharger down-pipe and a bigger exhaust to reduce the back pressure (though you might not choose this route, it's just my opinion here).........

emwporsche

"Hell - there is one full of **** guy on here who said he made 375 RWHP at 15 PSI with a STOCK head."

it was 1375 rwhp and it was at 5 psi
***.
can't keep the facts strait can you?

dougoh

hosrom
that is what was said in my email from danno....what i ordered from him was a TO4E turbo / 55lbs Delphi injectors and new chips...he calls the turbo a GURU-400 TO4E turbo (with matching water-pipe & temp-sensor)