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Old 03-03-2005 | 04:30 AM
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Heu Sly,
It is unlikely that you will hear no sound cause part
of the pressurize will escape through one of the cylinder.
Old 03-03-2005 | 10:23 AM
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I have the same issue with black smoke

I thought it was just due to my Vitesse chips....well....I hope it is!!
Old 03-03-2005 | 02:29 PM
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“My O2 sensor is broken the signal is beetween 45 and 50 mV instead of arround 500 mV...

But the motronic give 450 mV on the wire which go to the O2 sensor (that explain why i was thinking my O2 sensor was good), is this normal or is it the reson of the O2 sensor breakdown ?”


Having an on/off switch on my O2 sensor, I have made the same observation and believe that the explanation is, that the DME sends out a high impedance ~500mV signal, so it does not correct the fuel supply, if the line to the O2 sensor is broken or the sensor presents an open circuit. If the well-functioning O2 sensor has a much lower impedance (than the ~500 mV from the DME) then its signal will override the “safety signal” from the DME.

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Old 03-03-2005 | 03:03 PM
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I thought this was somewhat normal. My 86 did it, and my 88 S did it with Autothority chips and now with Guru chips. Mine does it when I first go full throttle, but that's it. I can look back and see a big cloud from when I first floor it, but it doesn't continue to smoke.
Old 03-03-2005 | 05:17 PM
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I've never actually seen the smoke. My girlfriend told me she could see it.....

I know the turbo is almost new and the motor is in great shape.....oh well....
Old 03-08-2005 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Laust Pedersen
“My O2 sensor is broken the signal is beetween 45 and 50 mV instead of arround 500 mV...

But the motronic give 450 mV on the wire which go to the O2 sensor (that explain why i was thinking my O2 sensor was good), is this normal or is it the reson of the O2 sensor breakdown ?”


Having an on/off switch on my O2 sensor, I have made the same observation and believe that the explanation is, that the DME sends out a high impedance ~500mV signal, so it does not correct the fuel supply, if the line to the O2 sensor is broken or the sensor presents an open circuit. If the well-functioning O2 sensor has a much lower impedance (than the ~500 mV from the DME) then its signal will override the “safety signal” from the DME.

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If you are right, i can change my o2 sensor and this signal will not break the new one (i was afraid of this)

But my o2 sensor has a wrong signal but is heating correctly...

And when the o2 sensor is disconnected, i've the same black clouds

thanks
Old 03-08-2005 | 02:39 PM
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I have a 3bar FPR and my car smokes under hard acceleration. I always attributed it to the FPR.

I am currently installing IceSharks headlight kit and upon disassembly I noticed that the vaccum line that connects to the bottom of the throttle body was not connected. I wonder if that could be part of my problem.

Anyone have a 3 BAR FPR with the same problem.

Come to think of it my car leaves a little black stain on my driveway if I let it idle for awhile.
Old 03-14-2005 | 04:27 PM
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I've tried another time without o2 sensor, and there no smoke, someone was behind me to see it.

So it's a good news, i will by the sensor and i tell you if it's was really the problem ;-)
Old 03-14-2005 | 05:53 PM
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Alex, my car does the same thing! I have a 89 944 Turbo. It will make some smoke, as it is programmed to run a little rich. There is not a lot of smoke at all, but some appears when I am under full boost. It seems to make more smoke when I run 100 octane fuel. I have a larger turbo too, so it needs more fuel!
Old 03-14-2005 | 10:13 PM
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Smoke is normal. Our cars should be running a little rich. A/f's in the 12s=black smoke. Yes I have a 3 bar fpr and smoke as well.



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