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Old 01-06-2005, 07:14 PM
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Brought my car(75k mi.) into the shop today for some fixes and got a compression test done to see where my engine stood before I go for a major power upgrade. I didn't have time for a leak down test as I added a couple of other fixes to a list. There are no oil consumption/power problems. Engine was warm and throttle open. Numbers were 120,135,140,130. Wasn't very pleased, but my tech said not to worry as there were no "issues". I did opt for one of those detergent runs to maybe loose some carbon on valves if there was any, but I won't know if it helped until another full comp./leak test.
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The 120 worries me, other than that, they seem alright. 130+ are good numbers. You may already know, but all of the numbers should be within 10% of each other.
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Should do the oil test. When doing compreshion (your 120) squirt a little oil into the cylinder through the sparkplug hole then do a compreshion test again if the numbers go up to 130+ its a good sign that your rings are gone. If the numbers stay the same its could be the head gasket or some thing less bad than rings going/gone.

In my case my numbers where 130,135,115,125... Turns out that the rings were gone and scored the cylinder wall pretty bad in cylinders 3 and 4...

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Yeah, that's what I thought as well. That's why I chose a cheap detergent fix! Hopefully it'll pay off like gangbusters! I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Here's a related question. I had a pt done, and though all were about the same, they were all in the 120.'s, and the tech said there were no issues. SO, how bad IS bad?
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Thanks guys. So I guess I'll redo the plain comp. test to see if the detergent is worth a ****, then drop some oil in that low cylinder. Follow that up with a leak down test and then what? Say I get that low cyl. up, am I just fine if I can get all 130+? If not, how long should/can I wait, especially if there are no other issues if that cyl. doesn't rise?
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i did mine a while ago and it was in the 120PSI range. My car ran and still runs really well.
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The compression numbers themselves mean less than the difference between them. The numbers themselves depend on a couple of things, temperature, altitude, etc. Remember, only add a little oil to the cylinder. Otherwise you will get very high numbers, did that on my N/A, numbers looked amazing for one compression test, until the oil drained past the rings.

Numbers in the 120psi range are okay. What's the mileage on the car?
Ideally, I believe they should be around 150psi, but IMO, over 110psi is good enough. Below 110psi and it needs to be rebuilt badly. 130+psi are great numbers for a used engine. 120psi is still doing decent.
Just for s***'s and giggles, the compression numbers on my 86 NA are 95, 97, 99, 96.
Old 01-07-2005, 08:54 AM
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Mine is at 150- 155 across the board.
You need to check fully warm and with throttle held open during the test.
It really makes a diff as these engines expand a lot when warmed up.
Kind of like the SR-71



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