#8 vs. #10 hotside, whats the diff....
11-04-2004, 01:47 PM
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Well, if you are getting into the 2.8 levels and #10 hotsides, I would think you would be past the "bolt on" stage of upgrades and thus have done some actual motor work first, before such a big hotside and really high boost. I.e intake, head work, cams, valves, etc. Lay down a bigger foundation to work with. Then, slap on a big *** turbo and real high boost.
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11-04-2004, 01:48 PM
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11-04-2004, 02:04 PM
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Please explain in detail how and when and why Lindsey Racing ripped you off. Then I will
get with Dave and get the complete, documented and real story. I already know most of it,
but will be happy to share the real truth with everybody. I'm getting a little tired of reading your slams when none are truthful at all.
It's time the real ZN951 shows his true colors.
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Please explain in detail how and when and why Lindsey Racing ripped you off. Then I will
get with Dave and get the complete, documented and real story. I already know most of it,
but will be happy to share the real truth with everybody. I'm getting a little tired of reading your slams when none are truthful at all.
It's time the real ZN951 shows his true colors.
Wes
PS if you are here representing LR, which obviously is the case, you could at least become a sponsor if John D would accept you, and I find it personally sad that you are not even a member...
11-04-2004, 02:17 PM
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>>>Yeah some real world experiences would be good.
I actually cannot remember seeing one post on this forum from one that actually have tried a 10# hotside on a 2.5 liter engine.
Well, perhaps some of the tuner's turbos have bigger hotsides but that's in the dark..<<<
You know, now that I think about it, what about TonyG's all Garret turbo on his 2.5 with the 4 into 1 SFR headers? Obviously not a KKK #10 but maybe a similar volume?
I actually cannot remember seeing one post on this forum from one that actually have tried a 10# hotside on a 2.5 liter engine.
Well, perhaps some of the tuner's turbos have bigger hotsides but that's in the dark..<<<
You know, now that I think about it, what about TonyG's all Garret turbo on his 2.5 with the 4 into 1 SFR headers? Obviously not a KKK #10 but maybe a similar volume?
11-04-2004, 03:06 PM
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Hey Guys,
Vetblack is a friend of mine. He is traveling today I believe. He is currently building a 3 liter track motor. This has the 2.7 S head, lt. fly and crank, larger injectors, etc.
Kevin
Vetblack is a friend of mine. He is traveling today I believe. He is currently building a 3 liter track motor. This has the 2.7 S head, lt. fly and crank, larger injectors, etc.
Kevin
11-04-2004, 08:48 PM
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Hey, if we get back on topic, I would also like to hear about differences between #8 and #10.
Quite often "#10" is a designation that vendors use to indicate that it's "bigger" than a #8.
But yes; how is it bigger?
Here's is my observation as I have a #10:
Exducer size is same as #8 (ID is 2.25" where the exducer wheel fits),
Different flange for fitment of crossover pipe into hothousing where there is a slightly larger opening (however, didn't measure it)
Cannot see size of opening where exhaust gas enters blades.
Net observation results: hardly any difference, visually.
Power: definitely more
I question my diameter of the exducer as I would think that the wheel should be a little bigger than a #8.
Quite often "#10" is a designation that vendors use to indicate that it's "bigger" than a #8.
But yes; how is it bigger?
Here's is my observation as I have a #10:
Exducer size is same as #8 (ID is 2.25" where the exducer wheel fits),
Different flange for fitment of crossover pipe into hothousing where there is a slightly larger opening (however, didn't measure it)
Cannot see size of opening where exhaust gas enters blades.
Net observation results: hardly any difference, visually.
Power: definitely more
I question my diameter of the exducer as I would think that the wheel should be a little bigger than a #8.
11-04-2004, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by J Chen
Less boost to get the same peak power.
That will also depends on the compressor trim
that's being used.
That will also depends on the compressor trim
that's being used.
11-04-2004, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Russ Murphy
You know, now that I think about it, what about TonyG's all Garret turbo on his 2.5 with the 4 into 1 SFR headers? Obviously not a KKK #10 but maybe a similar volume?
Perhaps the best comparison is the car's Chris White dynoed some time ago. Pretty much a stock engine with a big Garret GT-series with a 0.82 hotside. A lot of power, but a very steep curve.
11-05-2004, 06:58 PM
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Perhaps the best comparison is the car's Chris White dynoed some time ago. Pretty much a stock engine with a big Garret GT-series with a 0.82 hotside. A lot of power, but a very steep curve.
