Possible dispute with vendor
08-26-2004, 03:06 PM
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J Chen: I don't know if this matters but there has been some issues with Spec clutches on the Audiworld forums. Here is a link that may/may not help with your case.
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1719981.phtml
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1719981.phtml
08-26-2004, 04:07 PM
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Hi Rage,
Firstly, I have never said that I've been screwed.
Secondly, the problem does not lie in the defination of
'streetable' but rather the vendor. Why, as a vendor, it
is their responsibility to aquire knowledge of the products
they sell. In return this will be an aid for them to assist
the customer in choosing the right product for their application.
It is also their job to totally understand the customers needs.
Can you imagine if you were to visit a physician & was diagnose
to suffer from cancer. He gives you advice to undergo treatment.
Without questioning, anyone will take the doctors advice.
Now, what would you do if you suddenly found out that the
diagnose was a mistake you don't suffer from cancer ?
Would you accept the doctors reasonning if he says to you :
Superficially it looks alot like cancel but it isn't. The very
first thing one would do will be to jump on your feet screaming
4 letter words at the physician. You are a F****K physician,
you're a professional & yet I've been wrongly diagnose.
In closing please, I would like to remind you all that I am in
no way bad mouthing anyone. I posted this thread as a discussion
to seek the views of others just in case things don't turn out right.
Thank You again to all
Firstly, I have never said that I've been screwed.
Secondly, the problem does not lie in the defination of
'streetable' but rather the vendor. Why, as a vendor, it
is their responsibility to aquire knowledge of the products
they sell. In return this will be an aid for them to assist
the customer in choosing the right product for their application.
It is also their job to totally understand the customers needs.
Can you imagine if you were to visit a physician & was diagnose
to suffer from cancer. He gives you advice to undergo treatment.
Without questioning, anyone will take the doctors advice.
Now, what would you do if you suddenly found out that the
diagnose was a mistake you don't suffer from cancer ?
Would you accept the doctors reasonning if he says to you :
Superficially it looks alot like cancel but it isn't. The very
first thing one would do will be to jump on your feet screaming
4 letter words at the physician. You are a F****K physician,
you're a professional & yet I've been wrongly diagnose.
In closing please, I would like to remind you all that I am in
no way bad mouthing anyone. I posted this thread as a discussion
to seek the views of others just in case things don't turn out right.
Thank You again to all
08-26-2004, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JDeitz951
NZ951
Sure, in your ideal world, but that's not where I live. Maybe JChen will talk to the mfr and learn it's not the right clutch for his application. Then he'd have some ammo to go back to the vendor and demand satisfaction. If the vendor did all the talking to the mfr, would the vendor reveal this to JChen? I doubt it.
On one hand you you suggest JChen trust the vendor to do all the talking, on the other hand you call their write up "misleading". Can't have it both ways.
Sure, in your ideal world, but that's not where I live. Maybe JChen will talk to the mfr and learn it's not the right clutch for his application. Then he'd have some ammo to go back to the vendor and demand satisfaction. If the vendor did all the talking to the mfr, would the vendor reveal this to JChen? I doubt it.
On one hand you you suggest JChen trust the vendor to do all the talking, on the other hand you call their write up "misleading". Can't have it both ways.
08-26-2004, 06:23 PM
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Can you imagine if you were to visit a physician & was diagnose
to suffer from cancer. He gives you advice to undergo treatment.
Without questioning, anyone will take the doctors advice.
Now, what would you do if you suddenly found out that the
diagnose was a mistake you don't suffer from cancer ?
Would you accept the doctors reasonning if he says to you :
Superficially it looks alot like cancel but it isn't.
Lindsey didn't diagnose your car as having a bad clutch (cancer) did they? And then later you found out you it was fine and you didn't need a new one?
It looks like the analogy should be that you went to the doctor knowing you wanted a sportier liver as years of imbiding had taken it's toll, and they sold you one for a do-it-yourself liver transplant, that was a little harder to install and didn't meet your needs. : )
to suffer from cancer. He gives you advice to undergo treatment.
Without questioning, anyone will take the doctors advice.
Now, what would you do if you suddenly found out that the
diagnose was a mistake you don't suffer from cancer ?
Would you accept the doctors reasonning if he says to you :
Superficially it looks alot like cancel but it isn't.
Lindsey didn't diagnose your car as having a bad clutch (cancer) did they? And then later you found out you it was fine and you didn't need a new one?
It looks like the analogy should be that you went to the doctor knowing you wanted a sportier liver as years of imbiding had taken it's toll, and they sold you one for a do-it-yourself liver transplant, that was a little harder to install and didn't meet your needs. : )
08-26-2004, 06:37 PM
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Blueman33 is right, they did not actually diagnose the car to see your needs.....can't REALLY blame them.
Sorry J Chen, you really should have studied more into this and asked (personally, i think the Cup clutch would work fine for 400whp right? even the Spec II would be fine).
Sorry J Chen, you really should have studied more into this and asked (personally, i think the Cup clutch would work fine for 400whp right? even the Spec II would be fine).
08-26-2004, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NZ951
You can have it both ways. They are mutually exclusive concepts.
NZ
Huh? "Mutually exclusive" means "one or the other, not both". Try again.
JChen
Without questioning? What planet are you from? If a doctor tells me I have a major medical problem, I get more opinions from the best doctors in the land and still read up on the subject to educate myself. BTDT more than twice.
08-26-2004, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Blueman33
It looks like the analogy should be that you went to the doctor knowing you wanted a sportier liver as years of imbiding had taken it's toll, and they sold you one for a do-it-yourself liver transplant, that was a little harder to install and didn't meet your needs. : )
haha ok I'm bored sorry
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08-26-2004, 07:56 PM
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.......... and now you want the doctor to take those silicone implants back and make him eat his profit ...... because its not exactly what you hoped for.
I agree....... its a life lesson.
I agree....... its a life lesson.
08-26-2004, 08:23 PM
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Hah-hah-hah,
Yes guys bad analogy totally agree. It just came to mind to reply to Rage at 4.00 am my time. But at least you get
my drift.
Hosrum, JDeitz, FYI, I did post a thread here last year but
did not get any reply from anyone.
Yes guys bad analogy totally agree. It just came to mind to reply to Rage at 4.00 am my time. But at least you get
my drift.
Hosrum, JDeitz, FYI, I did post a thread here last year but
did not get any reply from anyone.
08-26-2004, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by J Chen
Hi Rage,
Firstly, I have never said that I've been screwed.
Secondly, the problem does not lie in the defination of
'streetable' but rather the vendor. Why, as a vendor, it
is their responsibility to aquire knowledge of the products
they sell. In return this will be an aid for them to assist
the customer in choosing the right product for their application.
It is also their job to totally understand the customers needs.
Firstly, I have never said that I've been screwed.
Secondly, the problem does not lie in the defination of
'streetable' but rather the vendor. Why, as a vendor, it
is their responsibility to aquire knowledge of the products
they sell. In return this will be an aid for them to assist
the customer in choosing the right product for their application.
It is also their job to totally understand the customers needs.
Sam
08-26-2004, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexE
.......... and now you want the doctor to take those silicone implants back and make him eat his profit ...... because its not exactly what you hoped for.
I agree....... its a life lesson.
I agree....... its a life lesson.
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