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Old 03-06-2004, 11:06 PM
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I opened up my DME today to install Autothority Stage 2 chips (I know, the Guru ones are better, but I got these real cheap so I'm trying them), and noticed that the FQS switch was in position #1. Position #0 is stock, as per Danno's web site. I set it to pos #0 and everything is fine, though it ran fine before too.

Question, any reason the PO had it set to #1 ? With the gas in Northern CA, am I ok with the stock setting ? It seems to run ok in both.
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You'll have to check the boards for what setting is which, but with those chips you will want to run the setting that adds fuel, I think #4 (adds 6% more fuel?), as those chips run lean up top.
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The AutoThority chips use the following FQS settings:
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POS   FUEL   IGN
 0      0%    0 
 1  +12.5%    0
 2  -12.5%    0
 3  +25.0%    0
 4      0%   -2.73 degree retard 
 5  +12.5%   -2.73
 6  -12.5%   -2.73
 7  +25.0%   -2.73
You've just added quite a bit of fuel to the already-rich mid-range. Might find that low-end torque performance is probably worse now than before with more turbo-lag...
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I'm running is POS 0 now with the chips. Danno, your comment about worse low-end torque and lag - are you suggesting that I should use POS 0, 1, or 2 for optimal performance ? Or are you suggesting I need Guru chips ?
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Sell the Autothority on ebay and get GURU

Probably get $150-250 for them and that is your cost of GURU chip package.
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Ye get the GURU...
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"are you suggesting that I should use POS 0, 1, or 2 for optimal performance?

You'd get the best performance from the APE chips in the #0 position. All the other ones will not give you better performance than that. Here's a site with dyno-comparisons of the APE chips: Farzaan's Dyno Day
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Are the Autothority DME FQS switch settings the same for Stage I and Stage II chips? And for a Turbo S Stage II chips, which tend to run lean on the top end, would it make sense to use a different FQS setting, possibly #1? But 12.5% increase seems like it would be way too much of an increase?
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"But 12.5% increase seems like it would be way too much of an increase?"

Yes, you'd completely wash out the already rich bottom-end/mid-range. The lean top end isn't a problem if you use their banjo-bolt restrictor only to control boost. It will drop max-boost of 15psi down to 11psi by redline. This is the boost-curve that the chips are mapped for. If you use a manual-controller to hold max boost longer, to say... 13psi by redline, then you'll go lean. To compensate, you only want to add +5-8% fuel from 5500rpm onwards. Also different boost-controllers have different boost-curves. For example, the pressure-regulator/bleeder types have a different curve than the check-valve ones (LBE/Reliaboost).



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