Just got hit, anybody have a estimation on damage while I wait on an adjuster
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This is what you need to replicate.
It doesn't have to have numerical gauge, you can transfer lengths of point to point to your tape measure,
If I wasn't clear above, the reason for the pointy extensions is that some of the required points that are illustrated are offset (behind or below another part) and impossible to measure accurately with a 1 dimensional tool.
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It doesn't have to have numerical gauge, you can transfer lengths of point to point to your tape measure,
If I wasn't clear above, the reason for the pointy extensions is that some of the required points that are illustrated are offset (behind or below another part) and impossible to measure accurately with a 1 dimensional tool.
![](https://www.gradeatools.com/v/vspfiles/photos/U-Chief-Tram-2.jpg)
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I have repaired a fair amount of wrecks, and with that I know pretty certainly whether or not to move on.
While it's always better to make that assessment in person than through internet pics, I can pretty much tell when a 944 comes off track on a flatbed if it's totalled or repairable....economically.
I know it's hard to get your head around because you were hit in the front but the bridge piece above the radiator is pulled forward and that was caused by the shrinkage in size of the nose panel by the dent and crease.
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While it's always better to make that assessment in person than through internet pics, I can pretty much tell when a 944 comes off track on a flatbed if it's totalled or repairable....economically.
I know it's hard to get your head around because you were hit in the front but the bridge piece above the radiator is pulled forward and that was caused by the shrinkage in size of the nose panel by the dent and crease.
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This is where a frontal force hit is transferred, so if you are ok in this area, you are golden.
Even in the event of this kind of damage, where people here will line up 99:1 against, this car is still fixable, and was.
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Even in the event of this kind of damage, where people here will line up 99:1 against, this car is still fixable, and was.
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no 951 beyond that is fixable that's a fantasy
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I think he means that hit is beyond repair aka car is junk it will never be straight again
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I guess the entire auto body industry's use of frame machines and car aligners is just a fantasy too...?
Not only could the car in the last pic be brought back, it was brought back with laser accuracy that is more "straight" than any car you have ever owned or parted....
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I'll post up pics of the above Coral Red 944S as it was post wreck, through repairs and finish repaired with a donor right front section from an '88 NA.
Easy to get those last ones, it's in my shop in the back yard, able to pass any alignment spec test, fire up, drive out the door, down the street to the nearest track and outrun any 1987 944S stock street car driven by anybody on this forum.....![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Not only did I repair the race car mentioned above (concrete barrier crash) with bent strut tower, I made the puller, anchors, tools and hydraulic arm to straighten it myself.
Five track USA 944 NA lap record holder.
You guys should really reset your personal limits.
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Easy to get those last ones, it's in my shop in the back yard, able to pass any alignment spec test, fire up, drive out the door, down the street to the nearest track and outrun any 1987 944S stock street car driven by anybody on this forum.....
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Not only did I repair the race car mentioned above (concrete barrier crash) with bent strut tower, I made the puller, anchors, tools and hydraulic arm to straighten it myself.
Five track USA 944 NA lap record holder.
You guys should really reset your personal limits.
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I am in agreement that a car with that damage is completely repairable. The devil is in the details and sometimes it makes better financial sense to just let it go than it does to proceed with the repair, but it's certainly been done any number of times by various Rennlisters over the years. You just won't be doing so under the "helpful" eye of an insurance company. Lol
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Half these guys couldn't tell the difference between a car in spec and one bent if they drove them back to back.
Factory measurements are (ex) 1600mm +/- 5mm, 760mm +/-3mm, you can easily pull one into factory stated spec closer than the allowable variance.
When Eon crashed his SP2 into concrete wall at CGB at NPR, the car his so hard, concrete chunks were between the tire bead and wheel rim and the tires never lost 1 psi pressure.
I measured 3 944s for the dimensions that concerned me and divided by 3 to get an average and pulled mine back to that spec.
All 3 factory, previously un-wrecked chassis' measured different.
I have a buddy that races an S2 in SP3, had the entire front from the firewall forward replaced......TWICE...!
Going OT I guess, I'll post up pics that make fantasy a reality if OP says that he's cool with it.
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I am in agreement that a car with that damage is completely repairable. The devil is in the details and sometimes it makes better financial sense to just let it go than it does to proceed with the repair, but it's certainly been done any number of times by various Rennlisters over the years. You just won't be doing so under the "helpful" eye of an insurance company. Lol
The OP said "I love my 951".
I was reading on Praxeology (human action) the other day.
Incentive, it's found is one of the main players in human behavior.
In the case of the kinked frame 944S above, I bought that car only a few years old from new, daily drove it for 10 years, gifted it to my son for his 15th birthday, me and him rebuilt the entire car and he drove it away to school holding his driver's license out the window for a pic that I can post right now.
Last day of school on that year, a fellow student backed out a pickup truck right in his path and he hit the truck right on the RR axle/wheel.
I had to bring it back.
That was my incentive.
I could fix this OP's car in my backyard shop with the lights off.....
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Ok, I had to, so to those that said, "agree, absolutely fixable", this is your justification -
Donor piece from an '88NA grafted all the way to spot welds of strut tower, frame rail stagger cut and welded inside and out, all wall thicknesses.
![](https://s8.postimg.cc/bds88wfhx/P7130001.jpg)
In factory measurement spec (laser frame machine) and repainted.
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Donor piece from an '88NA grafted all the way to spot welds of strut tower, frame rail stagger cut and welded inside and out, all wall thicknesses.
![](https://s8.postimg.cc/bds88wfhx/P7130001.jpg)
In factory measurement spec (laser frame machine) and repainted.
![](https://s8.postimg.cc/tummzjnol/P7130004.jpg)
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Agree 100%.
The OP said "I love my 951".
I was reading on Praxeology (human action) the other day.
Incentive, it's found is one of the main players in human behavior.
In the case of the kinked frame 944S above, I bought that car only a few years old from new, daily drove it for 10 years, gifted it to my son for his 15th birthday, me and him rebuilt the entire car and he drove it away to school holding his driver's license out the window for a pic that I can post right now.
Last day of school on that year, a fellow student backed out a pickup truck right in his path and he hit the truck right on the RR axle/wheel.
I had to bring it back.
That was my incentive.
I could fix this OP's car in my backyard shop with the lights off.....![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
T (welcome back BTW)
The OP said "I love my 951".
I was reading on Praxeology (human action) the other day.
Incentive, it's found is one of the main players in human behavior.
In the case of the kinked frame 944S above, I bought that car only a few years old from new, daily drove it for 10 years, gifted it to my son for his 15th birthday, me and him rebuilt the entire car and he drove it away to school holding his driver's license out the window for a pic that I can post right now.
Last day of school on that year, a fellow student backed out a pickup truck right in his path and he hit the truck right on the RR axle/wheel.
I had to bring it back.
That was my incentive.
I could fix this OP's car in my backyard shop with the lights off.....
![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
T (welcome back BTW)