Can anyone give me the size difference between early and late control arms?
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Can anyone give me the size difference between early and late control arms?
I've search the internet far and wide with no luck.
Just after size differences between the 2.
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Just after size differences between the 2.
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So, using later offset Control Arms will 'push out' the same wheel ~25 mm. That, together with the change going to a late offset wheel will 'push out' the wheel outer lip ~50mm for a total increase in stance on the front.
Given the change in geometry for NB cars (i.e. 924/924S), any idea how far out the camber is? Seems like I've read ~4 degrees? Does that sound about right?
Given the change in geometry for NB cars (i.e. 924/924S), any idea how far out the camber is? Seems like I've read ~4 degrees? Does that sound about right?
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So, if the 924S has a track width of 55.8" (early offset) vs. the 944 with 58.2" (regardless of offset) gets late offset Control Arms/spindles/hubs installed there should be no change in front wheel track? Seems like it should increase by the 2" overall based on the difference in the control arms. In addition, the geometry will need to be adjusted to compensate for the 4 degree camber which can be accomplished using after market adjustable camber plates.
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Even if you fit wider wheels you generally adjust the wheel offset to straddle evenly the extra width of the wheel either side of the previous wheel center line. There are off course exceptions where you adjust wheel offset on much wider wheels to clearance either the suspension or the fender, also if you go wide body, but commonly the track doesn’t change more than a negligible amount.
Whst exactly are you trying to achieve?
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Im not too familiar with the 924S, I presume it uses the early steel arms at the front and not the aluminum ones but it uses the aluminum arms from the 86 at the rear. Also it has early offset suspension but uses late offset wheels in order to fit inside the narrower fender. Is that correct?
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It is my understanding that the 924S specs are as you noted.
From a performance standpoint, this car will likely see some DE events, possible auto-cross and certainly some spirited mountain runs. Want to upgrade to the 4 piston calipers.
From a performance standpoint, this car will likely see some DE events, possible auto-cross and certainly some spirited mountain runs. Want to upgrade to the 4 piston calipers.
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Imo upgrading the brakes on a 924S shouldn’t be a priority for an occasional track car, stock brakes are plently good, personally I would spend the money on suspension and tires instead. However if you still want to fit 4-pot Brembos from the S2/turbo you don’t have to change your suspension to late offset, I think you just need rotors and calipers from an 86 turbo.
The only advantage of late offset would be the stronger hubs and easier rotor removal, but I’m not sure you would find Porsche wheels to fit easily and they would probably need to be a custom offset from an aftermarket supplier.
Again, I repeat I’m not too familiar with the 924S, probably should start your own new thread on the 924/944 forum where someone else can chirp in.
The only advantage of late offset would be the stronger hubs and easier rotor removal, but I’m not sure you would find Porsche wheels to fit easily and they would probably need to be a custom offset from an aftermarket supplier.
Again, I repeat I’m not too familiar with the 924S, probably should start your own new thread on the 924/944 forum where someone else can chirp in.